New Variant Preview: Chesspolitik (4p or 2p)

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Re: New Variant Preview: Chesspolitik (4p or 2p)

Postby sinnybee » 10 Jan 2019, 23:23

NoPunIn10Did wrote:Like the Trans-Siberian Railway in Colonial, a piece that can move several spaces unless some obstruction shows up along the way is not terribly easy to adjudicate for. What if two queens cross paths, for instance? Would they bounce? If so, would they stop just short of the bounce or return to their original positions?

If queens were to be used, I think that they should be given the rules:

-Their only path obstructions are the pieces before adjudication.
So, if a queen is ordered from A1 to C3 (or ordered to support the unit in C3 or to support a unit to C3), B2 only needs to be vacant before adjudication, a move to or bounce in B2 from (an)other unit(s) does not hinder her travel.
So, essentially, queens move first.
Specifically, queens fast-travel to their destination, but are sent back one space every time they are bounced (explained more later).

-Queens paths don't obstruct each other.
So, if a queen is ordered (or supporting) from A1 to C3, while another queen is ordered (or supporting) from A3 to C1, both queens successfully issue their strength of 1 on their destination space.
Likewise, if a queen is ordered (or supporting) from A4 to C4, while another queen is ordered (or supporting) from D4 to B4, both queens successfully issue their strength of 1 on their destination space.
Think of them as skinny queens--they can slip past each other along their path as long as they aren't in each others way prior to adjudication.

-To follow normal Dip rules, two queens can't switch places unless one of them is convoyed.
So, if a queen is ordered from C2 to C4 while another queen was ordered from C4 to C2, one of the queens would have to be convoyed, by a king or queen in B3 or D3 or a knight in A3 or E3 or a queen in A2, A4, E2, or E4, unless any of the queen path spaces are occupied prior to adjudication.
However, convoys don't really make sense since all units can get to all spaces (except for bishops, which are not in use), so...
nevermind.

-I am of the opinion that queens should go as far as they can.
They are quick, but do not have time to return to their original space is their move is unsuccessful.
If a queen is ordered to move from A1 to D4, a king is ordered to move from C4 to D4, a knight is ordered from D1 to C3, and a king is ordered from B1 to A1, then first, you adjudicate all queen move destination spaces, being a bounce in D4.
Second, since the queen didn't make it to D4, she tries for C3.
Since C3 also is bounced, she ends up in B2, and the king from B1 makes it to A1.
If it's a fall turn, the king captures A1 from the queen while the queen causes two bounces in the same turn.
So, a queen moving from A1 to H8 could technically cause 8 bounces if a unit is ordered to every space between and including A1 and H8, while the queen would end up staying in A1. If everything between and including B2 and H8 wasn't vacant at the start of the turn, then the farthest space the queen can try moving to, supporting, or supporting to, is the first space with a unit on it at the start of the turn.

Though there are several advantages to queens, I feel that it could be strategic to build a relatively small amount of them, due to their cost of two supply centers each.
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Re: New Variant Preview: Chesspolitik (4p or 2p)

Postby sinnybee » 11 Jan 2019, 00:27

C6 is the equivalent of the Black Sea :)--the non supply center crucial space between a single Russian fleet/knight and a single Turkish fleet/knight.

I think queens would be a great added layer of strategy, but the 4 and 2 player versions both sound very intriguing even without queens.

I bet this would be tons of fun to play gunboat, as chess is played, and possibly good live / with short turns (online or in person).
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Re: New Variant Preview: Chesspolitik (4p or 2p)

Postby NoPunIn10Did » 11 Jan 2019, 21:36

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