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Re: PDL 2020 Viewers Lounge

PostPosted: 06 Sep 2020, 22:34
by Woolgie
Ironcladsoldier has failed to submit orders and has been auto surrendered. They have therefore been evicted from the league. Owing to the likely loss of the power in the game, having one remaining unit surrounded by opposition, a replacement is likely not needed in the game as any found will not be in the game before the next phase deadline.

As there are no further games to be created a replacement is not needed in the league. The player will still be able to complete their other active PDL game from which they haven’t surrendered, albeit without collecting any league points for that game.

This will leave the league with a gap and as we have no further reserve players I am proposing that this remains the case. Any future reserve signups may be needed to fill spots in live games and it is not prudent to sign someone up, give them a position in the league and they never play a game, when they may be needed to fill live spots.

Reference to the Cesspitt case

Earlier in the year, Cesspitt failed to submit orders and was auto surrendered when they had one unit remaining in a similarly hopeless position. They were not evicted from the league. We have ruled that this is a sufficiently different case as to warrant a different decision, with Cesspitt failing to submit orders in a FALL RETREATS phase where they had already lost their last SC. Their surrender therefore had no impact on the game as the retreat must have been immediately followed by a disband. Ironcladsoldier failed to submit orders in a FALL MOVES phase. However seemingly hopeless this position was, there were diplomatic possibilities, there was no certainty of attack and retreat followed by disband and support could have prevented a successful attack. The surrender has had a small but knowable impact on the game.

Re: PDL 2020 Viewers Lounge

PostPosted: 07 Sep 2020, 01:22
by Custer
Bravo, swift justice!

Custer

Re: PDL 2020 Viewers Lounge

PostPosted: 07 Sep 2020, 03:35
by Latanst1
Many thanks for the information and for the quick action.

There is no game title mentioned but I assume the memo below concerns one of the ongoing PDL games (July or August?). In the meantime, we are a week into the month but it looks as if there are four September games which have not yet begun due to missing players. Is there a standard 'waiting' period in these cases and what plans are in place to these games back on schedule?

Many thanks for your continuing support and action behind the scenes. I am sure yours is often a frustrating role but your involvement is very much appreciated. If there is anything any of us can to do assist, please do just let us know.

Latanst1

Woolgie wrote:Ironcladsoldier has failed to submit orders and has been auto surrendered. They have therefore been evicted from the league. Owing to the likely loss of the power in the game, having one remaining unit surrounded by opposition, a replacement is likely not needed in the game as any found will not be in the game before the next phase deadline.

As there are no further games to be created a replacement is not needed in the league. The player will still be able to complete their other active PDL game from which they haven’t surrendered, albeit without collecting any league points for that game.

This will leave the league with a gap and as we have no further reserve players I am proposing that this remains the case. Any future reserve signups may be needed to fill spots in live games and it is not prudent to sign someone up, give them a position in the league and they never play a game, when they may be needed to fill live spots.

Reference to the Cesspitt case

Earlier in the year, Cesspitt failed to submit orders and was auto surrendered when they had one unit remaining in a similarly hopeless position. They were not evicted from the league. We have ruled that this is a sufficiently different case as to warrant a different decision, with Cesspitt failing to submit orders in a FALL RETREATS phase where they had already lost their last SC. Their surrender therefore had no impact on the game as the retreat must have been immediately followed by a disband. Ironcladsoldier failed to submit orders in a FALL MOVES phase. However seemingly hopeless this position was, there were diplomatic possibilities, there was no certainty of attack and retreat followed by disband and support could have prevented a successful attack. The surrender has had a small but knowable impact on the game.

Re: PDL 2020 Viewers Lounge

PostPosted: 07 Sep 2020, 04:46
by MasterGR
Thank you Woolgie! In the meanwhile it appears that a first-timer decided to join as Austria’s replacement, which is probably okay under the circumstances and better than just a hold order... unless the newbie NMRs of course!

Woolgie wrote:Ironcladsoldier has failed to submit orders and has been auto surrendered. They have therefore been evicted from the league. Owing to the likely loss of the power in the game, having one remaining unit surrounded by opposition, a replacement is likely not needed in the game as any found will not be in the game before the next phase deadline.

As there are no further games to be created a replacement is not needed in the league. The player will still be able to complete their other active PDL game from which they haven’t surrendered, albeit without collecting any league points for that game.

This will leave the league with a gap and as we have no further reserve players I am proposing that this remains the case. Any future reserve signups may be needed to fill spots in live games and it is not prudent to sign someone up, give them a position in the league and they never play a game, when they may be needed to fill live spots.

Reference to the Cesspitt case

Earlier in the year, Cesspitt failed to submit orders and was auto surrendered when they had one unit remaining in a similarly hopeless position. They were not evicted from the league. We have ruled that this is a sufficiently different case as to warrant a different decision, with Cesspitt failing to submit orders in a FALL RETREATS phase where they had already lost their last SC. Their surrender therefore had no impact on the game as the retreat must have been immediately followed by a disband. Ironcladsoldier failed to submit orders in a FALL MOVES phase. However seemingly hopeless this position was, there were diplomatic possibilities, there was no certainty of attack and retreat followed by disband and support could have prevented a successful attack. The surrender has had a small but knowable impact on the game.

Re: PDL 2020 Viewers Lounge

PostPosted: 07 Sep 2020, 11:25
by Woolgie
Latanst1 wrote:Is there a standard 'waiting' period in these cases and what plans are in place to these games back on schedule?


Players have 7 full days to join, so this ends on Tuesday afternoon (GMT).

Re: PDL 2020 Viewers Lounge

PostPosted: 07 Sep 2020, 11:56
by Latanst1
Woolgie,

Thank you very much for confirming!

Cheers,
Latanst1

Woolgie wrote:
Latanst1 wrote:Is there a standard 'waiting' period in these cases and what plans are in place to these games back on schedule?


Players have 7 full days to join, so this ends on Tuesday afternoon (GMT).

Re: PDL 2020 Viewers Lounge

PostPosted: 08 Sep 2020, 23:36
by MasterGR
Looks like Tortellacci was replaced by Guns of Brixton ?

Re: PDL 2020 Viewers Lounge

PostPosted: 09 Sep 2020, 02:46
by TTBen
MasterGR wrote:Looks like Tortellacci was replaced by Guns of Brixton ?


We had 5 players no show their final games. Woolgie posted a thread asking for replacements and the players that volunteered were assigned randomly to one of 5 games. We'll see if they all join but the tentative replacements are:

Tortellacci by Guns of Brixton
0wl by Audacia
Tolpuddlemartyr by stevenjlee
Diophantus22 by amras
Rik by AnMaRi20

Re: PDL 2020 Viewers Lounge

PostPosted: 09 Sep 2020, 03:17
by MasterGR
Excellent, thanks to you and Woolgie for moving things forward swiftly! Hopefully we can finally get to the conclusion of the league, and I can celebrate what is looking like a 6th place :D


TTBen wrote:
MasterGR wrote:Looks like Tortellacci was replaced by Guns of Brixton ?


We had 5 players no show their final games. Woolgie posted a thread asking for replacements and the players that volunteered were assigned randomly to one of 5 games. We'll see if they all join but the tentative replacements are:

Tortellacci by Guns of Brixton
0wl by Audacia
Tolpuddlemartyr by stevenjlee
Diophantus22 by amras
Rik by AnMaRi20

Re: PDL 2020 Viewers Lounge

PostPosted: 11 Sep 2020, 03:11
by TTBen
TTBen wrote:
MasterGR wrote:Looks like Tortellacci was replaced by Guns of Brixton ?


We had 5 players no show their final games. Woolgie posted a thread asking for replacements and the players that volunteered were assigned randomly to one of 5 games. We'll see if they all join but the tentative replacements are:

Tortellacci by Guns of Brixton
0wl by Audacia
Tolpuddlemartyr by stevenjlee
Diophantus22 by amras
Rik by AnMaRi20


Officially, Diophantus22 showed up and joined but the other 4 were replaced as shown above.