Fall 3AD Orders

A game in which players accumulate points to alter past orders. Designed and GM'ed by Marsman57. Ended in a 3 way draw shared by EpicDim (Egypt), Aeschines (Greece), and Nanooktheeskimo (Rome)

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Fall 3AD Orders

Postby marsman57 » 18 Jul 2016, 06:11

Spring 6AD Changes:

Image

Rome (red) - nanooktheeskimo - TT Points: 7
TT Orders:
None
Current Orders:
Sag to IBE - Resolved
Tar to Sag - Resolved
LIG to BER - Bounced 1v1
BER to PUN - Resolved
PUN S BER to Carthage - Invalid order, no unit
GOT to Tha - Bounced 1v1
TYN to AUS - Resolved
Vin H - Resolved
SIC sup BER-PUN - Resolved


Carthage (blue) - I Love Italy - TT Points: 4
TT Orders:
None
Current Orders:
F Tha sup Car HOLD - Cut
Bay-The - Invalid order, no unit

Greece (green) - Aeschines - TT Points: 7
TT Orders:
None
Current Orders:
Bla S Dac - Che - Resolved
Dac - Che - Resolved
Bit - Sip - Bounced 1v1
Mil - Cil - Bounced 2v2
Min S Mil - Cil - Resolved
Byz - Mil - Bounced 1v1


Persia (gray) - ferdy0 - TT Points: 5
TT Orders:
Fall 2AD
Tye Hold
Current Orders:
dam - ara - Invalid order, no unit
tyr sup dam - ara - Invalid order, no unit
cil sup sid hold - Cut
cyp sup Cil HOLD - Resolved
che sup sip - hold - Cut, dislodged, retreat needed
sip sup che - hold - Cut


Egypt (yellow) - EpicDim - TT Points: 4
TT Orders:
None
Current Orders:
mem - cyr - Bounced 1v1
lep - cyr - Bounced 1v1
syr - sid - Resolved
tye s f syr - sid - Resolved
ara - dam - Invalid Order, no unit
gop - egy - Resolved
lib - cyr - Bounced 1v1


Fall 5AD Changes:
Image

Rome (red) - nanooktheeskimo - TT Points: 7
TT Orders:
None
Current Orders:
Sag to IBE - Resolved
Tar to Sag - Resolved
LIG to BER - Bounced 1v1
BER to Carthage - Bounced 1v1
PUN S BER to Carthage - Invalid order, no unit
GOT to Tha - Bounced 1v1
TYN to AUS - Resolved
Vin H - Resolved


Carthage (blue) - I Love Italy - TT Points: 4
TT Orders:
None
Current Orders:
F Tha sup Car HOLD - Cut
Bay-The - Invalid order, no unit

Greece (green) - Aeschines - TT Points: 7
TT Orders:
None
Current Orders:
Bla S Dac - Che - Resolved
Dac - Che - Resolved
Bit - Sip - Bounced 1v1
Mil - Cil - Bounced 2v2
Min S Mil - Cil - Resolved
Byz - Mil - Bounced 1v1


Persia (gray) - ferdy0 - TT Points: 5
TT Orders:
Fall 2AD
Tye Hold
Current Orders:
dam - ara - Invalid order, no unit
tyr sup dam - ara - Invalid order, no unit
cil sup sid hold - Cut
cyp sup Cil HOLD - Resolved
che sup sip - hold - Cut, dislodged, retreat needed
sip sup che - hold - Cut


Egypt (yellow) - EpicDim - TT Points: 4
TT Orders:
None
Current Orders:
mem - cyr - Bounced 1v1
lep - cyr - Bounced 1v1
syr - sid - Resolved
tye s f syr - sid - Resolved
ara - dam - Invalid Order, no unit
gop - egy - Resolved
lib - cyr - Bounced 1v1

Spring 5AD Changes:
Image

Rome (red) - nanooktheeskimo - TT Points: 7
TT Orders:
None
Current Orders:
Sag to IBE
Tar to Sag
LIG to BER
BER to Carthage
PUN S BER to Carthage
GOT to Tha
TYN to AUS
Vin H


Carthage (blue) - I Love Italy - TT Points: 4
TT Orders:
None
Current Orders:
F Tha sup Car HOLD
Bay-The
(F Car HOLD) - Dislodged

Greece (green) - Aeschines - TT Points: 7
TT Orders:
None
Current Orders:
Bla S Dac - Che
Dac - Che
Bit - Sip
Mil - Cil
Min S Mil - Cil
Byz - Mil


Persia (gray) - ferdy0 - TT Points: 5
TT Orders:
Fall 2AD
Tye Hold
Current Orders:
dam - ara
tyr sup dam - ara
cil - sid
cyp sup Cil HOLD
che sup sip - hold
sip sup che - hold


Egypt (yellow) - EpicDim - TT Points: 4
TT Orders:
None
Current Orders:
mem - cyr
lep - cyr
syr - sid
tye s f syr - sid
ara - dam
gop - egy
lib - cyr


Fall 4AD Changes:
Fall3AD-Fall3AD.gif
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Rome (red) - nanooktheeskimo - TT Points: 7
TT Orders:
None
Current Orders:
Sag to IBE - Resolved
Tar to Sag - Resolved
LIG to BER - Resolved
BER to Carthage - Resolved
PUN S BER to Carthage - Resolved
GOT to Tha - Bounced 1v1
TYN to AUS - Resolved
Vin H - Resolved


Carthage (blue) - I Love Italy - TT Points: 4
TT Orders:
None
Current Orders:
F Tha sup Car HOLD - Cut
Bay-The - Resolved
(F Car HOLD) - Dislodged, Retreat needed

Greece (green) - Aeschines - TT Points: 7
TT Orders:
None
Current Orders:
Bla S Dac - Che - Resolved
Dac - Che - Resolved
Bit - Sip - Bounced 1v1
Mil - Cil - Resolved
Min S Mil - Cil - Resolved
Byz - Mil - Resolved


Persia (gray) - ferdy0 - TT Points: 5
TT Orders:
Fall 2AD
Tye Hold
Current Orders:
dam - ara - Resolved 2v1
tyr sup dam - ara - Resolved
cil - sid - Bounced 1v1, dislodged, retreat needed
cyp sup Cil HOLD - Does not correspond
che sup sip - hold - Cut, dislodged, retreat needed[
sip sup che - hold - Cut


Egypt (yellow) - EpicDim - TT Points: 4
TT Orders:
None
Current Orders:
mem - cyr - Invalid Order, no such unit
lep - cyr - Bounced 1v1
syr - sid - Invalid Order, no such unit
tye s f syr - sid - Invalid Order, no such unit
ara - dam - Bounced 1v1, dislodged, retreat needed
gop - egy - Resolved
lib - cyr - Bounced 1v1

Spring 4AD Changes:
Fall3AD-Spring4AD.gif
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Rome (red) - nanooktheeskimo - TT Points: 7
TT Orders:
None
Current Orders:
Sag to IBE - Resolved
Tar to Sag - Resolved
LIG to BER - Resolved
BER to Carthage - Resolved
PUN S BER to Carthage - Resolved
GOT to Tha - Bounced 1v1
TYN to AUS - Resolved
Vin H - Resolved


Carthage (blue) - I Love Italy - TT Points: 4
TT Orders:
None
Current Orders:
F Tha sup Car HOLD - Cut
Bay-The - Invalid Order, no such unit
(F Car HOLD) - Dislodged Retreat needed

Greece (green) - Aeschines - TT Points: 7
TT Orders:
None
Current Orders:
Bla S Dac - Che - Resolved
Dac - Che - Resolved
Bit - Sip - Bounced 1v1
Mil - Cil - Resolved
Min S Mil - Cil - Resolved
Byz - Mil - Resolved


Persia (gray) - ferdy0 - TT Points: 5
TT Orders:
Fall 2AD
Tye Hold
Current Orders:
dam - ara - Invalid order, no such unit
tyr sup dam - ara - Support failed, does not match
cil - sid - Bounced 1v1, dislodged, retreat needed
cyp sup Cil HOLD - Does not correspond
che sup sip - hold - Cut, dislodged, retreat needed
sip sup che - hold - Cut


Egypt (yellow) - EpicDim - TT Points: 4
TT Orders:
None
Current Orders:
mem - cyr - Bounced 1v1
lep - cyr - Bounced 1v1
syr - sid - Invalid Order, no such unit
tye s f syr - sid - Invalid Order, no such unit
ara - dam - Invalid Order, no such unit
gop - egy - Resolved
lib - cyr - Bounced 1v1

Original Orders:
Only one small TT change, but the implications were pretty significant for Egypt, Carthage, and Persia. Retreats are due 7/19 at 0500 UTC (0100 EDT).

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Rome (red) - nanooktheeskimo - TT Points: 7
TT Orders:
None
Current Orders:
Sag to IBE - Resolved
Tar to Sag - Resolved
LIG to BER - Resolved
BER to Carthage - Resolved
PUN S BER to Carthage - Resolved
GOT to Tha - Bounced 1v1
TYN to AUS - Resolved
Vin H - Resolved


Carthage (blue) - I Love Italy - TT Points: 4
TT Orders:
None
Current Orders:
All units hold (FYI, this was an explicit order, not an NMR) - Resolved
(F Car HOLD) - Dislodged Retreat needed

Greece (green) - Aeschines - TT Points: 7
TT Orders:
None
Current Orders:
Bla S Dac - Che - Resolved
Dac - Che - Resolved
Bit - Sip - Bounced 1v1
Mil - Cil - Resolved
Min S Mil - Cil - Resolved
Byz - Mil - Resolved


Persia (gray) - ferdy0 - TT Points: 5
TT Orders:
Fall 2AD
Tye Hold
Current Orders:
dam - ara - Resolved
tyr sup dam - ara - Resolved
cil - sid - Bounced 1v1, dislodged, retreat needed
cyp - hold - Resolved
che sup sip - hold - Cut, dislodged, retreat needed
sip sup che - hold


Egypt (yellow) - EpicDim - TT Points: 4
TT Orders:
None
Current Orders:
mem - cyr - Invalid Order, no such unit
lep - cyr - Bounced 1v1
syr - sid - Bounced 1v1
tye s f syr - sid - Invalid Order, no such unit
ara - dam - Bounced 1v1, dislodged, retreat needed
gop - egy - Resolved
lib - cyr - Bounced 1v1
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Re: Fall 3AD Orders

Postby EpicDim » 18 Jul 2016, 21:33

Persia gave too many orders. They only had 6 units in Spring 3AD when it was the present, but provided 7 orders.
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Re: Fall 3AD Orders

Postby marsman57 » 18 Jul 2016, 23:13

By the game rules, Gal-Mil will need to go unreported. This will cause Byz-Mil to succeed. I do not believe it changes anything else. This sucks given there is a hold above that could have been unordered, but alas the rules are clear and don't give wiggleroom.

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Re: Fall 3AD Orders

Postby ferdy0 » 19 Jul 2016, 00:52

What???

but you can order builds when you dont have any.

Thats an unfair and unbalanced rule.
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Re: Fall 3AD Orders

Postby nanooktheeskimo » 19 Jul 2016, 00:57

ferdy0 wrote:What???

but you can order builds when you dont have any.

Thats an unfair and unbalanced rule.

It's a rule that's been there since the start. It can't be that unbalanced if we all have to play with it.
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Re: Fall 3AD Orders

Postby ferdy0 » 19 Jul 2016, 01:00

nanooktheeskimo wrote:
ferdy0 wrote:What???

but you can order builds when you dont have any.

Thats an unfair and unbalanced rule.

It's a rule that's been there since the start. It can't be that unbalanced if we all have to play with it.


then there should be the same rule for builds.
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Re: Fall 3AD Orders

Postby marsman57 » 19 Jul 2016, 05:39

The rules were open for comment for some time before the game began, and no one commented that they believed they're was a problem. If you're curious, it's designed as a balance issue to keep players from entering dozens of orders for every possible map/territory combination.

I admit that when I wrote the rules I didn't foresee the situation where a player orders a number of units more than their total at the start of the phase but equal or less than their total when the phase actually processes. There may be room for a tweak there before game two.
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Re: Fall 3AD Orders

Postby ferdy0 » 19 Jul 2016, 09:50

marsman57 wrote:The rules were open for comment for some time before the game began, and no one commented that they believed they're was a problem. If you're curious, it's designed as a balance issue to keep players from entering dozens of orders for every possible map/territory combination.

I admit that when I wrote the rules I didn't foresee the situation where a player orders a number of units more than their total at the start of the phase but equal or less than their total when the phase actually processes. There may be room for a tweak there before game two.


I mean I ordered the amount of units now avaliable for the present.

Also remember you I only rejoined the game during the country distibution.
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Re: Fall 3AD Orders

Postby marsman57 » 19 Jul 2016, 13:34

I realize that is a gap in the rules. Let me think about it some more. I won't adjudicate retreats before a final ruling.
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Re: Fall 3AD Orders

Postby I Love Italy » 19 Jul 2016, 16:39

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