World Influence Fall 2022

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World Influence Fall 2022

Postby asudevil » 10 Jul 2015, 04:49

Some poorly written orders (missed units...self bounces with followups) as well as some intrigue and mis-direction going on.

Interesting season as we are FULLY in the dregs of the game.

One quick retreat from Nigeria. Lets get this in ASAP, but no later than 7/11 noon GMT, 7am EST

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MAJOR POWERS

Venezuela-AardvarkArmy

A VNC - move – WSH----Bounced
A COL - move – WSH----Bounced
A MPL - move – MT----Bounced (2v2)
A NEB - support - MPL-MT----Resolved
A NYC - move - LKP----Resolved
A OHI - support - NYC-LKP----Resolved
A NEN - move – QBC----Bounced (1v2)
A HOU - move - CAR----Resolved
A TCT - move - FOR----Resolved
A BOG - hold----Resolved
A LIM - hold----Resolved
A BUE - hold----Resolved
A PTO – hold----Resolved
A RIO - hold----Resolved
F GSL - convoy - (UK) NS-BDX----Does not correspond
A WDC - move - CAP (Going HOME!!! **)----Resolved…the Aardvarks have returned to their ancestral home of South Africa
F NEC - convoy - WDC-CAP----Resolved
F SAR - convoy - WDC-CAP----Resolved
F ECB - convoy - WDC-CAP----Resolved
F WSA - convoy - WDC-CAP----Resolved
F MSA - convoy - WDC-CAP----Resolved
F SWA - convoy - WDC-CAP----Resolved
F SAT - convoy - WDC-CAP----Resolved
F ENA - support - WSA-hold----Cut
F ANT - support - ENA-hold----Resolved
F GOH - move - WCB----Resolved
F ALA (ec) - move - SEC----Resolved
F CAR - move - WDC----Resolved
F SWI - move – DUR----Bounced (1v1)
F WED - move – SWI----Bounced
F FLK - move – WED----Bounced
F CAP - support - ANC-hold----Resolved
F GOA - move - NCP----Bounced
F NEP - move - NCP----Bounced
F HAW - move - CPO----Bounced
F ECP - move - CPO----Bounced
F TAH - move - SOL----Bounced
F SWP - move - SOL----Bounced
F AUK - move - TAS----Bounced (1v1)
F CHR - move - TAS----Bounced (1v1)
F PEB - move - CHB----Resolved

UK-marsman57

MT-MPL----Bounced (2v2)
ONT sup MT-MPL----Resolved
LKP-QBC----Resolved (2v1)
NS sup LKP-QBC----Resolved
BOB-ENA----Bounced (5v5)
AZO sup BOB-ENA----Resolved
NAT sup BOB-ENA----Resolved
NWF sup BOB-ENA----Resolved
POR sup BOB-ENA----Resolved
STG sup MOR HOLD----Resolved
MOR sup BOB-ENA----Cut
CAT-ALG----Bounced
WMD convoy CAT-ALG----Resolved
ALG-AHA----Bounced (1v1)
TUN sup LIB-TRI----Resolved
KRS Hold----Resolved
AKM sup AKT Hold----Resolved

France-vaderi

F CPV Support ENA to Hold----Resolved
F ESA Support ENA to Hold----Resolved
F Dak Support ENA to Hold----Resolved
F Ivo Support ESA to Hold----Resolved
A Mau Support Aha to Mor----Resolved
A Aha Move Mor----Bounced (2v2)
A Bam Move Aha----Bounced

Germany-Antigonos

Fleet SAS Support Army ONT to Hold----Resolved
Fleet GOB Hold----Resolved
Fleet North Sea Hold----Resolved
Fleet English Channel Hold----Resolved
Army PAR Hold----Resolved
Army PIE Support Army MAR to Hold----Resolved
Army MAR Support Army PIE to Hold----Resolved
Army SWI Support Fleet MIL to Hold----Resolved
Fleet MIL Support Army BUD to Hold----Resolved
Army AUS Support Army BUD to Hold----Resolved
Army SIL Support Army BUD to Hold----Resolved
Army BUD Support Fleet MIL to Hold----Cut
Army LVI Support Army KIE to Hold----Resolved
Army KIE Support Army VOL to Hold----Resolved
Army BLR Support Army VOL to Hold----Resolved
Army VOL Support Army AKT to Hold----Resolved
Army URA Support Army AKT to Hold----Resolved
Army AKT Support Army AKM to Hold----Resolved
Army OMS Support Army AKM to Hold----Resolved

Nigeria-Stanislaw

A CHA support TRI to hold----Resolved
A BAN support KHA to hold----Resolved
A KIS support KHA to hold----Resolved
A UGA support ZNZ-TAN----Resolved
A ZAM support ANB-WND----Cut
A ZIM-DUR----Bounced (1v1)
F KIN-LUA----Bounced (1v1)
TRI DISLODGED (2v3) RETREAT NEEDED
ANB NMR (you probably meant WND…but never ordered it)

S.Africa-EpicDim

A ETH – SOM----Bounced (1v1)
F NAI - ZNZ----Resolved (2v1)
F TAN S F NAI - ZNZ----Resolved
F MZB – SOB----Bounced…DISLODGED (1v2) AUTO DISBAND
F MOZ S F TAN----Resolved
A LUA – ZAM----Bounced (1v1)

Israel-raphtown

ADR – BUD----Bounced (2v4)
SER S ADR - BUD----Resolved
NAP – ADR----Bounced
SIC – ADR----Bounced
ROM H----Resolved
LIB - TRI----Resolved (3v2)
SIR S LIB - TRI----Resolved
ALX - LIB----Resolved
ASW – KHA----Bounced (1v3)
RED - ASW----Bounced
CAI – ASW----Bounced
GAB – SOM----Bounced (1v1)
QAT H----Resolved
BAG H----Resolved
KHU S TEH H----Resolved
ARM S TEH H----Resolved
TEH H----Resolved
ANB - RIY----Resolved
SYR H----Resolved
BLA S RUM H----Resolved
SER S RUM H----Resolved
RUM H----Resolved

India-Aeschines

ASH S UZB----Resolved
AFG S KAS hold----Resolved
SHI S AFG hold----Resolved
BLU S SHI hold----Resolved
KAS S AFG hold----Resolved
ISL S KAS hold----Resolved
NPL S DHA hold----Resolved
DHA hold----Resolved
BNK (ec) hold----Resolved
AND S BNK (ec) hold----Resolved
NEI - CIO----Resolved
MLD - NEI----Bounced
ZNZ – TAN----Bounced (2v2)…DISLODGED (1v2) AUTO DISBAND
SOB – NAI----Resolved
CIO – MZB----Resolved (2v1)
MDS S CIO - MZB----Resolved
SIO S NAB - SEI----Resolved (2v1)
NAB - SEI----Resolved
ARF S NAB – ARF----Does not correspond
JAV – NEI----Bounced
BOR – JAV----Bounced
BRU – BOR----Bounced
CRL S ARF hold----Resolved

China-GhostEcho

A Alm S A Uzb H----Resolved
A Bao H----Resolved
A Cho S A Tib H----Resolved
A Gob H----Resolved
A HK H----Resolved
A Irk S A Srd H----Resolved
A Nay H----Resolved
A Qng S A Alm H----Resolved
A Sib H----Resolved
A Srd S A Alm H----Resolved
A Tib H----Resolved
A Uzb S A Alm H----Resolved
A Yun H----Resolved
F BER S A Sib H----Resolved
F Gua H----Resolved
F Han -> Cam----Bounced
F Man -> SCS----Bounced
F Min -> SCS----Bounced
F OKH H----Resolved
F Oki H----Resolved
F NG S F PAL H----Resolved
F NPH H----Resolved
F PAL S F NG H----Resolved
F Sap H----Resolved
F SCN -> Cam----Bounced
F SOJ H----Resolved
F SPH S F PAL H----Resolved
F WCP S F BER H----Resolved

Japan-ninjaruler

Anc hold----Resolved

Australia-sjg11

F PER- support A DRW-Hold----Resolved
A DRW-support F PER-Hold----Resolved
F GAB- TAS----Bounced (1v1)
F SEI-Hold---DISLODGED (1v2) AUTO DISBAND
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Re: World Influence Fall 2022

Postby AardvarkArmy » 10 Jul 2015, 06:57

asudevil wrote: Interesting season as we are FULLY in the dregs of the game.


If "dregs" means reaching the end, I would have to disagree. This is clearly mid-game.

We are FAR from any solo threat - I would have to gain 41 more centers to get there. That would be, say ALL of Germany and ALL of UK - all the way to ARC and OMS ... plus ALL of South Africa. Or ALL of South Africa, Nigeria, France AND Israel. Or ALL of China and everything India holds beyond the actual national boundaries of India. In other words, it ain't happening.

We are also FAR from any draw - eleven countries are still alive, so unless we all want to bow our heads with the ignomy of surpassing the infamous nine-way Imperial draw, we've got a LOT more work to be done.

Let's keep the interest level going... we all knew this game could go to December when we signed up! :mrgreen:
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1930-China/BattleIsleA-Winterfell/S&S-Turkey/WORLD INFL-Venezuela/LECRAE-Dublin/WWIV.2-Cali/IMPERIAL1861.1-Trky/YNGSTWN.1-Grmny/AMERICAS.2-Mex/AFRICAN.2-S.Arabia
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Re: World Influence Fall 2022

Postby AardvarkArmy » 10 Jul 2015, 07:26

asudevil wrote:A HOU - move - CAR----Resolved


The map shows this unit in ALA :?
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1930-China/BattleIsleA-Winterfell/S&S-Turkey/WORLD INFL-Venezuela/LECRAE-Dublin/WWIV.2-Cali/IMPERIAL1861.1-Trky/YNGSTWN.1-Grmny/AMERICAS.2-Mex/AFRICAN.2-S.Arabia
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Re: World Influence Fall 2022

Postby asudevil » 10 Jul 2015, 14:38

AardvarkArmy wrote:
asudevil wrote: Interesting season as we are FULLY in the dregs of the game.


If "dregs" means reaching the end, I would have to disagree. This is clearly mid-game.


Dregs to me meant the boring middle part where its slow going whichever whatever you are doing...its not the quick moves/stabs of the beginning or the excitement of teh end...its that middle part where you just can't seem to get anywhere, nor can you see the end yet.

That was my use of the word.
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Re: World Influence Fall 2022

Postby asudevil » 10 Jul 2015, 14:39

AardvarkArmy wrote:
asudevil wrote:A HOU - move - CAR----Resolved


The map shows this unit in ALA :?


Will be fixed with retreat
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Re: World Influence Fall 2022

Postby asudevil » 11 Jul 2015, 01:20

Nigeria disbands the retreat so we head into winter. Winter builds are due 7/12 noon GMT, 7am EST

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MAJOR POWERS

USA-WHSeward
Eliminated 2018

Mexico-Shibabalo
Eliminated 2018

Venezuela-AardvarkArmy
41units…44SC…3builds

Peru-fijikilo0
Eliminated Fall 2015

Brazil-Mouse
Eliminated 2018

UK-marsman57
18units…19SC…1builds

France-vaderi
7units…7SC…0builds

Germany-Antinogos
19units…19SC…0builds

Egypt-glacier777
Eliminated Fall 2021

Nigeria-Stanislaw
9units…10SC…1build

S.Africa-EpicDim
5units…5SC…0builds

Russia-Alman
Eliminated Fall 2017

Israel-raphtown
22units…23SC…1builds

Iran-LBS
Eliminated Fall 2020

India-Aeschines
22units…24SC…2builds

China-GhostEcho
29units…29SC…0builds

Japan-ninjaruler
1units…1SC…0builds

Australia-sjg11
3units…4SC…1builds

MINOR POWERS

Canada ---- Controlled by USA
Eliminated Fall 2014

Cuba ---- Controlled by Venezuela
Eliminated Fall 2012

Argentina ---- Controlled by Peru
Eliminated Fall 2013

Chile ---- Controlled by Brazil
Eliminated Fall 2014

Sweden ---- Controlled by Russia
Eliminated Fall 2013

Poland ---- Controlled by No One
Eliminated Fall 2011

Serbia ---- Controlled by Germany
Eliminated Fall 2012

Italy ---- Controlled by France
Eliminated Fall 2016

Tunesia ---- Controlled by Egypt
Eliminated Fall 2011

Morocco ---- Controlled by UK
Eliminated Fall 2011

Mali ---- Controlled by S.Africa
Eliminated Fall 2015

Kenya ---- Controlled by Nigeria
Eliminated Fall 2012

DRC ---- Controlled by Egypt
Eliminated Fall 2011

Ukraine ---- Controlled by Isreal
Eliminated Fall 2013

Turkey ---- Controlled by Russia
Eliminated Fall 2012

Saudi Arabia ---- Controlled by Israel
Eliminated Fall 2011

Kazakhstan ---- Controlled by China
Eliminated Fall 2011

Pakistan ---- Controlled by Iran
Eliminated Fall 2012

Sri Lanka ---- Controlled by India
Eliminated 2013

N.Korea ---- Controlled by Russia
Eliminated Fall 2017

Vietnam ---- Controlled by China
Eliminated Fall 2015

Thailand ---- Controlled by UK
Eliminated Fall 2011

Philippines ---- Controlled by Japan
Eliminated Fall 2013

Indonesia ---- Controlled by Australia
Eliminated Fall 2015
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Re: World Influence Fall 2022

Postby AardvarkArmy » 11 Jul 2015, 09:03

The Army location in CAR (rather than ALA) was not fixed...
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1930-China/BattleIsleA-Winterfell/S&S-Turkey/WORLD INFL-Venezuela/LECRAE-Dublin/WWIV.2-Cali/IMPERIAL1861.1-Trky/YNGSTWN.1-Grmny/AMERICAS.2-Mex/AFRICAN.2-S.Arabia
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Re: World Influence Fall 2022

Postby asudevil » 11 Jul 2015, 15:39

AardvarkArmy wrote:The Army location in CAR (rather than ALA) was not fixed...


Bah Humbug...will be after builds
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Re: World Influence Fall 2022

Postby Antigonos » 11 Jul 2015, 16:02

AardvarkArmy wrote:
asudevil wrote: Interesting season as we are FULLY in the dregs of the game.


If "dregs" means reaching the end, I would have to disagree. This is clearly mid-game.

We are FAR from any solo threat - I would have to gain 41 more centers to get there. That would be, say ALL of Germany and ALL of UK - all the way to ARC and OMS ... plus ALL of South Africa. Or ALL of South Africa, Nigeria, France AND Israel. Or ALL of China and everything India holds beyond the actual national boundaries of India. In other words, it ain't happening.

We are also FAR from any draw - eleven countries are still alive, so unless we all want to bow our heads with the ignomy of surpassing the infamous nine-way Imperial draw, we've got a LOT more work to be done.

Let's keep the interest level going... we all knew this game could go to December when we signed up! :mrgreen:


All of UK plus all of Germany added to your current 44 bring you to 82 by my count so why all of South Africa (5)when 3 would do it or the one left to Japan plus 2 from SA. I for one hope it does not happen but since China and India appear to be giving you a free hand to give it a go it does seem disingenuous of you to assert that it
ain't happening
.

But than you also speak of
the ignomy of surpassing the infamous nine-way Imperial draw
but of course you could eliminate Japan anytime (no offense Japan) and grab three or move of France's supply centers and quickly see him off. Australian and South Africa also seem at extreme risk in the next year or two from the actions of various powers. So that would bring the number of powers down to seven and your supply center count up to at least 49 including only 3 from France plus Japan's 1 and not including any of the UK's NA supply centers, France's African supply centers of any from SA. But of course you know this full well. But wait...by Venezuela's often proclaimed rules which we are no doubt expected to obey no more than four powers are permitted to enter the magic draw circle!
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Germany in 6 draw World Influence
Athens 4 draw Greek City States
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Re: World Influence Fall 2022

Postby VGhost » 11 Jul 2015, 17:39

asudevil: Not that it matters, as I wasn't building anyway, but I only have 28 units.

---

Now I am going to indulge in a bit of bad form and pull back the fancy curtain of diplomacy to discuss some underlying facts.

Venezuela's insistence on four players (and only four players) reaching the final draw is, if taken to be a serious statement of his only possible intent, clearly ludicrous. With the current run of play, I have difficulty seeing the number of survivors drop below seven, and five looks to me like the lower bound. But if the four player draw is not to be taken as a Law of the Universe, then it is clearly a negotiating tactic. It could be basic horse-trading: he states a draw smaller than he thinks is actually possible to get the one he would actually be happy with. Or it could be a technique to try to get conflict to continue to the point where he's big enough to make a credible run at a solo.

Either way, the correct question to ask is always, "How can I profit from this?" That is why I am, as Germany says, giving Venezuela a free hand. So far, my profit has not lain in pursuing a war with Venezuela. I might as well say Venezuela has given me a free hand. Should either of us seriously misstep - there is a tense and very armed border - I am certain there would be a very rapid change in the look of the board.

It is true, of course, that preventing any other player's victory is a prerequisite to one's own being in the scoring column at the finish. But the draw, while normal enough, is not exactly a "natural" end to the game, which wants a victor. A draw is not ideally several skilled but timid players eliminating the less insightful or more unfortunate and then mutually agreeing not to take further risk, but to paraphrase Tarrasch*, all players ought to have made the greatest exertions to win, their attacks and counterattacks being baffled only by the correct defense.

* von Bardeleben vs. Schiffers, Hastings 1895: "A drawn game ought to look like this one. Both players have during seven hours made the greatest exertions to win, but attack and counterattack have been baffled by the correct defense, and the board is nearly empty."
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