Kamikaze: Is it allowed to lose on purpose?

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Re: Kamikaze: Is it allowed to lose on purpose?

Postby Strategus » 07 Feb 2018, 20:01

gareth66 wrote:
springbutt46 wrote:I don't believe there is anything specific in the rules that prohibits a person from kingmaking for "out of game" reasons Nanook.


It is a clear violation of site metagaming rules to base ANY in-game decision on out-of-game factors where that decision is purposefully beneficial to a particular in-game player (or purposely disadvantageous to a particular in-game player) for out-of-game reasons.

What if you have a grudge against someone because they keep on stabbing you in every game you play against them?
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Re: Kamikaze: Is it allowed to lose on purpose?

Postby gareth66 » 07 Feb 2018, 21:24

GPD wrote:
gareth66 wrote:
springbutt46 wrote:I don't believe there is anything specific in the rules that prohibits a person from kingmaking for "out of game" reasons Nanook.


It is a clear violation of site metagaming rules to base ANY in-game decision on out-of-game factors where that decision is purposefully beneficial to a particular in-game player (or purposely disadvantageous to a particular in-game player) for out-of-game reasons.

What if you have a grudge against someone because they keep on stabbing you in every game you play against them?


Yep, that’s metagaming, if you decide to attack him for the explicit reason that you hold a grudge. It’s a fine line. It’s ok to be wary of trusting him if that was your previous experience of playing with him. And you can tread cautiously before trusting him. But the decision as to how you are going to treat him in this game must be based on your experience in this game. If you decide in this game that you do not trust him and therefore to attack him then that’s fine. But if that step is missing, and your decision is based on factors that bypass this game, then that is metagaming.

Of course, it is quite possible that HE is metagaming, depending on what his reasons are for stabbing you. If it is just because that is how he plays (and stabbing is, after all, part of the game) then that is fine. But if his actions are based on a grudge towards you then he is metagaming.

Ultimately, if you are playing with good players, you can expect them to stab you at some point in the game, because they are not playing the game properly (and would not be good players) if they didn’t. So if you are playing with a good player who you know (either from personal prior experience or from his general style of play) is going to stab at some point, it is fine to be wary of him and to be cautious about trusting him when it gets to that point in the game. But it is when you allow a grudge to influence decision-making in-game that you enter the realms of metagaming.
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