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Re: International Workingpeople's Association (CYOC)

Postby kingpie3 » 25 Oct 2018, 17:29

The Baujantecois socialist party is not located in the Entinates, they currently are being housed in West Africa pending negotiations for a land allotment on Mars. They also have limited financial transfer abilities with Consortium bank accounts until information can be shared regarding what these funds are being used for, per standard regulations.

OOC: Me and MK have an agreement pending unique to the both of us so I won't be dealing with the socialists just yet, if at all.
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Re: International Workingpeople's Association (CYOC)

Postby mat.gopack » 25 Oct 2018, 17:36

kingpie3 wrote:The Baujantecois socialist party is not located in the Entinates, they currently are being housed in West Africa pending negotiations for a land allotment on Mars. They also have limited financial transfer abilities with Consortium bank accounts until information can be shared regarding what these funds are being used for, per standard regulations.

OOC: Me and MK have an agreement pending unique to the both of us so I won't be dealing with the socialists just yet, if at all.

Just a note that there being a socialist party in your nation was a consideration of the peace treaty with the IWA, and that the transition to Baujantec itself does not really change that.

That also won't change if basically all the current socialists go to West Africa, then it'll just become basically the same as the Domuian socialist party - a couple of random people who run massive ad campaigns with IWA funding that accomplishes basically nothing.

(Unless you wanted to break that part of the treaty, ofc)
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Re: International Workingpeople's Association (CYOC)

Postby kingpie3 » 25 Oct 2018, 17:42

I'm just saying that they currently operate out of a foreign nation with limited financial infrastructure on Mars until they meet government standards and can work out a full agreement with West Africa. The peace deal is kept by the current Adored One, but that is the current version as of right now, in case the rest of the organization was unaware.
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Re: International Workingpeople's Association (CYOC)

Postby RedSun » 29 Jun 2019, 09:20

The Holy State is donating 200 billion CCs to the IWA.
100 billion are to go towards funding religious activities (primarily building of Kakumei-teki Janisism temples and missionary work although if a small amount of these funds go in other directions we won’t be unhappy) in any of the socialist states that are willing to accept aid.
The other 100 billion can go to community or social services in any country that has accepted the other billions of dollars. 1 billion funding for religious activities for 1 billion in social aid.

The Holy State applauds members of the IWA for working towards eliminating rampant economic equality as the Holy State also follows these ideals. Ichiji Seijin Akihiro Kato would like to collaborate with the IWA on issues regarding economic inequality, faith, and human rights issues in the coming years and hopes that numerous friendships can be expanded upon.
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Re: International Workingpeople's Association (CYOC)

Postby Subotai45 » 30 Jun 2019, 03:47

The UPF will not accept this theocrat’s funding and further, is deeply angered about the ending of true socialism in nirvan. We do not recognize the holy state and will vote against the iwa membership as a whole accepting it.
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Re: International Workingpeople's Association (CYOC)

Postby MinnesotanKaiser » 30 Jun 2019, 04:20

The Worker's Syndicalist Union of Terra will not recognize the autocratic theocracy that is the Holy State of Asteria. We do not accept their funding and urge the rest of the IWA to similarly reject said funds. We will not grant legitimacy to this horribly fascist entity.
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Re: International Workingpeople's Association (CYOC)

Postby mat.gopack » 30 Jun 2019, 04:23

It is surprising to see a theocratic and ethno-centrist state like this 'Holy State of Asteria' attempt to bribe the support and recognition of the IWA in this manner. The UMC will be echoing its comrades on Venus and the Syndicalist Union of Terra in voting to refuse this ... 'offer'.
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Re: International Workingpeople's Association (CYOC)

Postby RedSun » 30 Jun 2019, 05:04

So as an ethno-centrist state we deny those charges as if you look under People and Society in our page it says:
“27.5% Japanese, 23.0% Chinese, 16.6% Korean, 10.4% Russian, 6.9% Mongolian, 5.5% Nomadic, 4.2% Uighur, 3.5% Phoenician, 2.1% Brazilian, 0.3% other”
So we have no ethnic Majority. Within the other we have Martians, Sino-Venusians and Cyborgs and within the Korean population we have two subgroups as well so the charge that we are ethno-centrist is false.

As for being theocratic, yes we are theocratic. Is that a bad thing? For decades a lack of faith brought a lack of morals and within a few short decades 78% of Asteria subscribes to one of the three largest religions in the country. The theocratic nature of the state merely is an action to restore virtue to Asterian society and therefore bring about better collaboration in the country.

We aren’t attempting to join the IWA and it wasn’t a bribe. It was a donation that allows our faith to prosper and teach good morals to your citizens while also allowing you to expand the social services you provide your people.

If you look at our country, we provide housing to all citizens, healthcare to all citizens, education to all citizens and have eliminated private property altogether. Salaries are provided by the government ranging from 10,000 to 100,000 with 10,000 only being for those with absolutely no contributions to society and explicitly rebellious behavior. Even then very worst of our country is able to live modestly off that as all the necessities to life are provided it is only the few luxuries such as a visit to Holy Sites or the purchasing of more expensive teas that the higher salaries are provided.
Only 2.5% of our economy is market based and that’s only because of exemptions for foreign companies from PCG and Baunair operating in Asteria. The rest is government provided.

We are communist as our economy is communist.
Communism is an economic idea and we simply are implementing it more efficiently and more centralized than our predeceders.

The accusation that we are fascist is quite sad really. Simply because the Asterian people want to live a life of faith and devotion has branded us as evil in your eyes. The fact that you would prefer to live a life sans morals is quite disappointing for us and the fact that you would equate a Janist based state with fascist states that have committed genocide is a false equivalency that only those that avoid facts would spit at our country.

To Venus, Socialism does exist in Nirvan still as it exists in the rest of Asteria. The economic system is the same only more efficient, more centralized and more awarding to the working people of the Holy State.

While the Holy State is deeply saddened that a belief in Janis and an attempt to fulfill ones life with purpose and clarity would be branded as fascist despite the same economic system being in place we hope that future administrations in the countries of the IWA will soon see the light and realize that faith and socialism can exist hand in hand.
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Re: International Workingpeople's Association (CYOC)

Postby mat.gopack » 30 Jun 2019, 05:55

RedSun wrote:So as an ethno-centrist state we deny those charges as if you look under People and Society in our page it says:
“27.5% Japanese, 23.0% Chinese, 16.6% Korean, 10.4% Russian, 6.9% Mongolian, 5.5% Nomadic, 4.2% Uighur, 3.5% Phoenician, 2.1% Brazilian, 0.3% other”
So we have no ethnic Majority. Within the other we have Martians, Sino-Venusians and Cyborgs and within the Korean population we have two subgroups as well so the charge that we are ethno-centrist is false.



Judging from your own declarations:

All schools shall teach in standard Japanese. Linguistic unity is essential to cohesive social order.


Traditional Japanese names are encouraged. Any child or adult who wishes to change their legal name to a traditional Japanese name may up until October 21st, 4836.
Afterwards at the age of 15 every child henceforth may adopt a Japanese names should their parent have given them another one.


All Japanese cities are to be renamed. They shall adopt traditional Japanese names. The cities citizens may pick nominate three names for the city by write in vote of the people.


It is very clear that Japanese is seen as the default, and proper, cultural and ethnic situation in your nation. Please do not insult the intelligence of the IWA membership by pretending otherwise.
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Re: International Workingpeople's Association (CYOC)

Postby mat.gopack » 30 Jun 2019, 05:57

I will also note that your economy is *not* communist. It is state controlled - which in this case is different, because you are a theocracy with no democratic elements. Your entire leadership is self appointed, with no consultation of the people.

Communism and socialism rely entirely on the means of production belonging to the people. In your nation, the entirety of your means of production belong to a cabal of unelected priests that get together to choose who the next unelected priest will be. That is not communism.
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