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Re: General Domestic Issues

Postby Constantine072 » 12 Dec 2019, 18:39

Asterian Deployment: Has triggered a Board Meeting and authorization of prep and activation of Foundation Battle Commander Pod. The Pod will be deployed to South where Southern Elements of Cooperative Foundation Forces will be getting prep and activation Protocols. Nueral Networks are being clear of civilian channels and prep for military utilization. The specialist Pod, Karyu, for Foundation, are being prepped for activation and but not entering full activation.

A delagation from Cooperative is being sent to Cairo to call for an international response. And calls made via red lines to IWA.
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Re: General Domestic Issues

Postby Subotai45 » 12 Dec 2019, 19:04

OOC: What was the pre-war situation of Guatemala? My assumption was a centrist democracy as sort of the default, but is there any contrary info?
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Re: General Domestic Issues

Postby RedSun » 13 Dec 2019, 09:02

Subotai45 wrote:OOC: What was the pre-war situation of Guatemala? My assumption was a centrist democracy as sort of the default, but is there any contrary info?


OOC: There has been no involvement in Guatemala since I joined. I don’t know what happened there before.
I was assuming an illiberal democracy. Democratic structure but mass corruption/potentially one party rule.

IC: It has been announced that Ichiji Seijin Nagisa Hirano has passed away, Kenji Morita has ascended to the title of Ichiji Seijin.

Emperor Hayato Akiyama has assured foreign observers that measures will be taken to prevent civilian casualties. In fact, Akiyama has invited members of the Darius Initiative to come in should they desire to provide medical and housing assistance to those displaced in the conflict.

The effective military of Guatemala has been subdued but guerilla movements continue in the countryside. Control over the urban centers has been completed but only 35% of the rural regions have fallen under Asterian control. Still tremendous progress has been made and it is expected that Greater Guatemala will soon become enlightened to the holy teachings of Janus.

OOC: If there will be a war, let’s outline the rules beforehand. I don’t want this to be a high stakes conflict.
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Re: General Domestic Issues

Postby Subotai45 » 13 Dec 2019, 16:33

OOC: Convenient for you that that the prewar gov was crappy, ain't it?

IC: The Federation has determined that the best way to avoid civilian casualties, is for fascist regimes not to invade random places with no historic, geographic, or cultural connection.

OOC: Red, the goal is to convince you to step out of Guatemala peacefully. I don't want to break a judge with a long, brutal war especially considering you still don't have an updated military OP, and there's no information on the size of space forces period, across any Asterian OP. But I'm not acquiescing to what is the most poorly justified invasion of anything in recent history.
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Re: General Domestic Issues

Postby Subotai45 » 13 Dec 2019, 16:52

The Guatemala Crisis has already sent ripples through the Federal foreign policy establishment. The consensus within Federal politics has long lied with an idealistic foreign policy aimed at furthering the revolution. At times, they have put their faith in violent means, at others, in the possibility of peaceful transformation. The Crisis exposed a flaw in this long-running doctrine of a strict binary between red and white, when an innocent non-socialist democracy found itself overrun by a fascist regime. It became morally impossible for the old dictates of "not one drop for a nonsocialist government!" to persevere when faced with such egregious aggression and violation of international norms.

Instead, the government is swiftly moving towards what it calls the Ameliorative Doctrine. Refusing to burn their idealistic roots, the Federation nevertheless realizes that it must take a practical approach. In this world, there are degrees of evil and of good, and it is the obligation of the Federation to increase the freedoms of people, wherever they may live, even if they are not a socialist regime and will not end up as such for the immediate future. The Federation makes it clear that they remain firmly beholden to existing international obligations, will not compromise on their morals when it comes to policies like the NAMP, and still believe in the eventual world revolution. However, until such time as there is a world free and united in fraternal socialist brotherhood, the Federation has the opportunity to protect freedom where it exists, and foster progressive policies where it does not.
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Re: General Domestic Issues

Postby jonisilk » 13 Dec 2019, 17:40

The Darius Initiative is being mobilised for immediate deployment to Guatemala.

In the largest scale operation seen since the Brazilian Civil War, over 60,000 aid workers and 30,000 peacekeepers along with resources (food, vaccines, blankets, etc) have been deployed in the initial wave, with more expected to follow shortly.

One of our orbiting Nightingale Medical Frigate, has moved from South to Central America, and will be used as a command centre for DI operations, from which it service the region more effectively.

All efforts will be made to keep Cairo informed of situations on the ground and to co-ordinate with them as soon as they are able to engage in the situation themselves.

We're also happy to co-ordinate our efforts with any other organisations looking to provide relief/aid.


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Re: General Domestic Issues

Postby MinnesotanKaiser » 13 Dec 2019, 18:08

The Worker's Syndicalist Union of Terra is appalled by the egregious acts of the fascist state of Asteria. It's alarming to see the peace held since the League War in Central America come to an end in such a brutish way. The WSUT condemns the actions of Asteria. Therefore, in the case of the passage of the Cairo intervention bill, WSUT will send a detachment of troops and equipment to Cairo to provide assistance in the endeavor. However, the WSUT would rather stress a peaceful resolution to this crisis. We commend the efforts of the PCG and offer any assistance we may possibly provide in alleviating any harm dealt to the Guatemalan people.
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Re: General Domestic Issues

Postby jonisilk » 13 Dec 2019, 19:31

HFPE

Meurig - We're sending another 30,000 Peacekeepers with the next wave, and 20,000 in the two waves after that.

Darius - You're talking about 100,000 Peacekeepers being deployed in a matter of weeks, that's not a peacekeeping force, that's an occupation force.

Meurig - Exactly, They invited us in and we're going in. I'm going to flood them with so many Peacekeepers we'll outnumber their occupying forces and make it impossible for them to do anything while we're breathing down their necks.

Cai - They should find their ability to enforce their rule severely compromised by such a heavy presence putting everything they do under a spotlight for the whole world to see.
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Re: General Domestic Issues

Postby kingpie3 » 13 Dec 2019, 19:55

IC: The Consortium expresses its sadness at yet another war on Earth. With this in mind, the reigning Exeveign Jabin Zempra has been empowered by the Janisi to make a pan-Janisist statement of neutrality. The eternal starlight of the Primadic faith, according to the Valajis Cula (The Gray Book), can be both a weapon of war and peace.

OOC: I’m judging if things can’t be resolved peacefully. Might need another set of eyes to watch for bias.
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Re: General Domestic Issues

Postby RedSun » 14 Dec 2019, 08:27

Subotai45 wrote:OOC: Convenient for you that that the prewar gov was crappy, ain't it?

IC: The Federation has determined that the best way to avoid civilian casualties, is for fascist regimes not to invade random places with no historic, geographic, or cultural connection.

OOC: Red, the goal is to convince you to step out of Guatemala peacefully. I don't want to break a judge with a long, brutal war especially considering you still don't have an updated military OP, and there's no information on the size of space forces period, across any Asterian OP. But I'm not acquiescing to what is the most poorly justified invasion of anything in recent history.


OOC: I assumed that because Guatemala is a developing country today and since no other country has been involved there in the five hundred years I’ve been here.

IC: The Patriotic Front has declared support for the Guatemalan rebels.

The Holy Asterian Empire is willing to negotiate with other powers if they are willing to be reasonable but will not relinquish its claim to Greater Guatemala.

OOC: We can have an agreed amount of limited troops on both sides and have a time table so the war doesn’t drag out continuously if we can’t make an agreement. Also I’m willing to discuss what happens here. My aim is I’m trying to make Asteria a sort of slow expanding evil empire for a few decades. A colonialist imperialist nation. So Guatemala was supposed to be something no one cared too much about but I was planning on doing something progressively more sinister to intentionally get a reaction and a larger conflict. I’m surprised by how big the reaction was to just this first action.
Me and Jon had a sort of Cold War discussion how we’d interact with each other through the decades with minor skirmishes.
I’m willingly to make an agreement but annexing Guatemala was pretty much a baby step in comparison to what my regime plans to do.
Also I have military numbers off-site on a document. But I probably have to update them and tweak the numbers a bit since I drew them up a century ago or so. Also guidance on realistic numbers would be appreciated since the variation in terms of forces on site compared to real military sizes is probably substantial.
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