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Re: General Domestic Issues

Postby Constantine072 » 13 Sep 2019, 05:09

mat.gopack wrote:
Constantine072 wrote:
mat.gopack wrote:So this is a retcon?

see the quoted post, it is not

The quoted post only mentions Catalonia and 'a peninsula', which is in no way enough (IMO) to place it within the territory claimed by Cyon (which explicitly did not include Catalonia).

The Peninsula was referencing Estremadura location area thing
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Re: General Domestic Issues

Postby mat.gopack » 13 Sep 2019, 05:12

You say that *now* - but that's years after beads has claimed portugal in game, with no indication that it was contesting his claim.

IDK, maybe beads is fine with it being there - personally I'd consider it a retcon though, since the peninsula is not mentioned as being in Portual, and is immediately followed up with an objective about Catalonia for that same pod/peninsula.
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Re: General Domestic Issues

Postby beadsman » 13 Sep 2019, 05:34

Below is the OOC War Agreement between Cons and me.

1. Ceona's main war goal is the utter demolition of the Atlantian Islands to wipe them off the map through use of overwhelming firepower. After the last of the conflicts of the war is resolved, if Ceona occupies any Atlantian islands, Ceona will evacuate the citizens and glass the occupied island to sink it into the ocean. Ceona's stretch war goal is the annexation of the Cooperative's Iberian islands.

2. The Cooperative's main war goal is the defense of their territory, their stretch goal is to annex all of Portugal.

3. No nuke or other single weapon above 50 kilotons will be used. Multiple smaller weapons or volleys fired simultaneously that have a combined power of 50 kilotons or more do not count. If a nuke or other single weapon above 50 kilotons is used, the other combatant will be allowed to respond with a weapon of a comparable power level. This restriction does not apply in space-space warfare.

4. No third parties (including parties other than the Cooperative and the Latin Empire of Ceona controlled by either player) will be called in by either combatant to influence the course of the conflict by providing protection, military coordination, material or monetary assistance, or direct support in combat. If either party breaks this clause, it will be considered null and void, and the other party will be considered justified in bringing in a third party or third parties.

5. The conflict will be geographically limited to space, Iberia, the islands near Iberia, and the sea space surrounding Iberia and the Iberian Islands, the Atlantian Islands, and the sea space surrounding the Atlantian Islands. This includes Ceonian ground-space weapons based in South America. Should either side engage their opponent on a front that has not been heretofore specified, this clause will be considered null and void, and the opposing faction will be considered justified in engaging their opponent in areas not specified as accepted combat zones in this clause.

6. Either side my use their entire militaries during the conflict, but divisions must begin the first round in the areas to which they are currently assigned. No army, fleet, air force, intelligence operatives, or space fleet may begin the first round in a space other than the one to which they are currently stationed in their respective OPs (Original Posts).

7. Ceona agrees, if they should be offered the opportunity to perform orbital strikes on the Cooperative, to limit their strikes to precise, targeted, surgical strikes. Aside from the specific situation outlined in clause 1, there will be no mass bombardment or glassing of areas. Ceona also agrees to avoid civilian targets with any potential orbital strikes to the best of their ability.

8. The war will be limited to no more than a total of 2 full rounds of combat before it is automatically ended.
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Re: General Domestic Issues

Postby beadsman » 13 Sep 2019, 05:36

Actually, yeah, I was unaware that that peninsula had a commander deployed there, as it is the area of Lisbon, my regional capital.

I think it was unclear enough that it should not have a commander pod there.
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Re: General Domestic Issues

Postby beadsman » 13 Sep 2019, 05:37

Also, I don't believe anyone actually judged whether neutral Catalonia agreed to the deployment of a commander pod. My agreement with RedSun specifically stated that Catalonia would remain a fully neutral state.

EDIT: If no one judged it, my opinion is that it never actually happened. I'm not fully opposed to it, but that is my personal view on the situation.
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Re: General Domestic Issues

Postby Subotai45 » 13 Sep 2019, 16:36

After the unprovoked Mobian assault during Belt, the Federation is not complacent. Some would argue that the Federation is incredibly paranoid - but it's not paranoia if they're really after you. As a result, the Federation has chosen to launch a phased mobilization of its sizable militia forces, draw its fleet back to within the shield in preparation for implementing convoy procedures for trading vessels, and advise that its citizens abroad make their way back home or to the nearest friendly state. This time, we will not be caught unawares.
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Re: General Domestic Issues

Postby RedSun » 21 Sep 2019, 14:39

The Holy State and Mobius have signed a bilateral mutual defense deal.

It passed the Kokkai with the following votes:
10/29 Kaiyu
15/16 Shukotai

President Eto passed it and it wasn’t not blocked by the Shingikai.

Thus it has become Declaration #77.
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Re: General Domestic Issues

Postby Subotai45 » 21 Sep 2019, 17:43

Isn’t this already covered by Cyborg?
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Re: General Domestic Issues

Postby Terminus » 23 Sep 2019, 01:53

Bulletin: What's going on at the URMA?

Much of the Republic-Monarchies has closed off interactions with the outside world for quite some time. This isolationist attitude is not from a lack of compassion towards the people of other nations, nor from a lack of interest in foreign issues. Historians and political commentators have mostly attributed this political behaviour instead to a major shift in the socio-cultural landscape within the URMA. The best way to characterize this shift is to look at the technological and subsequent social and demographic changes that took place the last time that the URMA was truly actively engaged in international issues. Huge advances in paleogenetics, medical technology, nanotechnology, and neurotechnology have had many effects on the population at large. These advances greatly reduced our age-related and disease-related mortality rates, while the practices of backing up and "compartmentalizing" consciousness have triggered a major change in how we view identity, life and death. We have since developed a new form of terminology to refer to individuals:

  • True-Form: the "primary" state of an entity's consciousness. True-Form beings are intuitively independent, self-aware, self-conscious entities, or the result of Second-Form beings transitioning to that state.
  • Second-Form: Mind-states and certain sections of the mind can be duplicated, or "expanded"/"multiplied" into nanite clusters and even fully separate bodies. This level of consciousness connected an entity's True-Form, primary mind-state is known as a Second-Form brain, or Second-Form being. Through nanotechnological, biological or electromagnetic means, a Second-Form is "tethered" to the actions of its True-Form counterpart; a Second-Form is distinctly not a "clone" of an entity, but rather an extension of self.
Over time, the normalization and commonplace distribution of these technologies changed how citizens of the Republic-Monarchies viewed the world. In short, it made us increasingly introspective and less likely to reach out to our fellow beings from other nations, and also pushed many towards knowledge-seeking and mentally stimulating tasks. Birth rates also drastically decreased over time because of this and also from a variety of other factors. The cultures across the entire URMA became more homogenous than ever before in these specific ways (even though there is still a grand level of diversity between country-states in other ways).

Not everyone conformed to these new ways of living - several of our on-world country-states have even sought to continue their governments outside of the URMA banner. The Empire of Rickaria, Regalia Spain, and even major parts of Core Aduron and the UMIA regretfully withdrew from the Republic Monarchies as a rejection of the new zeitgeist. We have no right to intrude on the desires of our fellow countrymen, and frankly we didn't want another civil war, so the separation was relatively peaceful.

With all that aside, polling from the People's Platform revealed a new calling once more. Our socio-cultural shared consciousness has beckoned us to begin a new cycle of interactions with the rest of the world. We greet old friends with open arms, humbly beg our rivals to start a clean slate with our nation, and warmly welcome new powers to the world stage.
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Re: General Domestic Issues

Postby Terminus » 23 Sep 2019, 01:58

With all this preamble aside, it appears that a war is brewing right outside the front door of Tuatha Dé Danann. While we will not intervene by joining either side, we will solidify our position in this way: we welcome all those who - in good faith - seek refuge from this conflict, and graciously offer neutral land for both parties to meet if they ever seek to resolve things peacefully.
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