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Re: General Domestic Issues

Postby beadsman » 01 Oct 2018, 20:07

I hardly attacked you, Venusians. I defended one who was helplesd to stand against you. Nevertheless, your brainwashed minds clearly cannot distinguish between another acting "offensively" or "defensively". I actually didn't want to make you smile a 3rd-rate power; you misunderstood. I wanted to engage in defense now and deal enough of a blow that you wouldn't dare attack Cyon any time soon, as I suspected was your ultimate plan. You were too powerful when joined with the UMC.

There is no law in Cyon against emigration, and immigration is also relatively easy. All are free to leave whenever they would like, so their families are free to do whatever the heck they want, provided you aren't as oppressive you controlling as you seem.

It is such a shame our two peoples had to travel down such different paths. I even tried to offer a non-aggression pact, but you both refused and made such an agreement impossible. I'm truly sorry for the history you have brought upon yourself. Cyon had never had a feud with another nation like this one. Congratulations, former ally of mine. You've managed to make me angry enough to actually make your people a long-term enemy of my people. I'm very willing to change that, but for now, that's how it is.
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Re: General Domestic Issues

Postby Subotai45 » 01 Oct 2018, 20:31

It's a shame you regard the Cooperative, your erstwhile ally so poorly, who despite decades of war experience and military spending equal to that of the Federation, is apparently a helpless babe according to you. Why is that, we ask? Do you think there is something inherent in capitalism that makes it weak against a truly democratic foe? Or are your concerns more targeted, in that you regard the Cooperative leadership as incapable of prosecuting a war against a foe utilizing equal resources?

Further, you declared war on the VSFSR, not the other way around. I understand the constant stress of making basic needs met in a capitalist society can rattle your brain, but this is an easily verifiable fact of the historical record. The Cooperative expelled us from the board after we escalated our demands for the betterment of Kuiato and moved against us. We declared war on them. You, without any justification, declared war on us. Only after your declaration did we declare on you. You allege a secret treaty, which is obviously secret and unveriafiable by the public. Truly, what a democracy is Cyon, that their people do not know who they are pledged to die for! Secret treaties have long been condemned, since the Great War on Old Earth, as needlessly escalatory, and anti-democratic, most notably by our ideological forebearers, the Russian socialists. We do not consider secret treaties as valid, and thus we consider ourselves to have been declared on by four separate powers after declaring war on one.

Striking a permanently crippling blow and reducing to a third-rate power seem awfully similar in our minds, and the fact remains that there was no alliance with the Mattibeans on account of their ideological deficiencies before the war. It was only seeing the True Home of the Revolution under threat by the combined forces of capitalism that brought the two previously disagreeing sides together. One cannot quibble over ideology when the very existence of the Revolution is at stake. Further, the UPF did not even join the IWA until after the Cyborg Pact was signed, as you can very well verify.

Excellent, we look forward to their arrival. We are sure that they, too, will be taught to love our socialist paradise along with your former sailors.

You tried to offer a nonaggression pact bare minutes after treacherously trying to destroy me. Of course I don't believe your sincerity, fascist swine. Of course I'm not trusting a goshdarn piece of paper to keep war from happening. You reek of hatred and fear. Only strength of arms can keep a dog like you at bay. Acting like Venus is the one to blame for the rupture in our relations is positively ludicrous. We know you orchestrated the treacherous coalition against us. We know your hatred was what drove the cowardly Mobians along the path to war. We will wait for a time when your arrogance drives your allies from you and then, one on one, as the Gods intended, we will exact our revenge.
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Re: General Domestic Issues

Postby Constantine072 » 02 Oct 2018, 00:42

“Helpless?”

Diana Feng, Engineer-General of the Corps, her brother still recuperating while Mao is in deep negotiation with Mobius, “The Cooperative is many things, but helpless is never one of them. While our forces laid in ruin, our Mecha vanquished, And our armies were sundered, helpless is something we are not. We went and gathered our allies, former and others. It is by our blood we fought the armies of the communist in space and on Earth. Both times after wars were we expended much of our resources.”

She stands and looks at the screen, “We were weak, vulnerable, but helpless? That we certainly were not.” Glaring she looks at the screen, “we lost in orbit. But our remaining Corpsmen, of my Division, the Engineers, would had taken to the tunnels and mountain passes of the Pluto and her moons. We would had fought till we could fight no more.” Continueing, “and allies? Allies whom were too scared to fight until assured of victory. You only fought and only fight when you know you can win. Where is the honor?”

The engineer generals glares once more, “the Corps are taught, that victory must be grasped and taken with your own hands. If you only let it fall into your lap, you’ll never realize greatness. Instead what your only ever realize is mediocrity. Struggle and pain, that is what borns greatness.” She spits, “in the Cooperative, there is a truly ancient phrase, that is both our company unofficial motto and something we live by; Alea Jacta Est, the Die is Cast.”

“But our official company motto, is that Dare Esse Vivere, to dare is to live. Nothing in life is won without taking a risk, a competition always has a loser. But you must dare to try. Every day is you must dare to be better than you were yesterday, to dare to try and earn another dollar then you did the day before. To Dare.” She continues, “if we were you, we would never dare. But dare we do everyday. We dare to speak our mind. And we dare to cross the rubicon, even if the outcome is known.”

She looks at the screen “helpless? Helpless would be if we choose to surrender again, to surrender our homes and our lands. To give up a third of our company with but a whimper. But you know? We dare. We dare to fight. Not because we don’t fear defeat, but because that we might win. That Cyon is the difference between you and us.”
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Re: General Domestic Issues

Postby kingpie3 » 02 Oct 2018, 02:15

The Baujantec Consortium is disappointed by the recent actions and rhetoric of the VSFSR. As is to be expected, we respond in kind with sanctions of our own and increased travel restrictions between our two fine nations. We hope Venus finds its peace with itself and its enemies, both real and imagined.

In more important news, Uturaam has graciously stepped down as the Jan'isi of the Cult and returns to his station as a member of the Synod of Neo-Baunair. His time as the most powerful man on Mars was short lived, but brought about by a divine duty to the Great Phyles* and to his patron Janisis, the Life-Death Entity. His tenure saw a mass scrambling of the Entinates' military power, the largest troop movement in the history of the Red Planet. Under him, the corporation reeled from the chaos of "The Days of White Dust" and reforged its spirit for a better tomorrow. His short time as the Adored One was a flashpoint of Baujantecois pop culture and post-revolutionary politics, with his swift and unexpected rise to power showing the continued efforts of the Consortium's leaders to pave a new path defined by theocapitalisme.

As Kraash Taundra retakes center stage as the Jan'isi and CEO of the Baujantec Consortium, time will tell how he deals with the legacy of his clerical rival. Uturaam was an avid war hawk and emphasized the necessity of a strong military, even going back to the days of the previous Tammertert regime. His decisive role in characterizing the Szalctho terror attack as a failure to support national defense will certainly play a role in determining the future political makeup of the Synod and Board of Directors. Taundra, a noted pacifist, will have to grapple with these unfolding political realities as well as growing social cleavages within the Entinates regarding orthodoxy and divinity. Often compared by his supporters to Darius Langale, 1st President of the PCG, Taundra will certainly have a lot of tough decisions to make as he enters the 2nd phase of his time as the Jan'isi.

(*The Great Phyles are basically the 5 species that make up the Baujantec Consortium. They've been intermingling for over 500 years in Central Mars, exchanging culture and bodily fluids the whole time. A common joke is that "human" Baujantecois can't produce children with regular people due to all the native Martian genes. This may end up being true soon, but that's context for a whole nother post about Baujantecois racial/ethnic identities. But the next culture post is about Janisist deities...)
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Re: General Domestic Issues

Postby Zander » 02 Oct 2018, 02:34

Judging Action:

The red menace spreads!

There have been communist revolutions in the following systems:
Gliese 687
L 1159-16

The following is still contested:
2M1540

Gliese 687, a red dwarf system just 15 light years from Earth, is a small barren mining system of no more then three million asteroid miners. It now contains the Gilese Mining Commune: a worker-owned mining consortium.

L 1159-16 is another small red dwarf system. It contains one habitable planet: L-1 (Or "Ellie" by the locals). It is a bunker planet of outcasts, rouges, an villains scraping out an existence beneath the earth of the planet, number no more then eight million. It is now a planet of communist outcasts, communist rouges, and communist villains scraping out an existence beneath the earth of the planet.

The system of 2M1540 (The sun is Ol' Twosie by locals) is currently a contested system. It contains an asteroid belt doted with mines, a planet of 30 Million (Freedom) and a planet of 50 Million (Sulara). Sulara and Freedom are organised in as a Theocracy and Democracy, respectively, with the asteroid belt split between the two planets and a handful of third parties. Communist politic party participation has spiked sharply in popularity on Freedom, and Sulara has been dealing with partisan rebels. The asteroid belt of both parties is becoming sketchily partisan.
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Re: General Domestic Issues

Postby Subotai45 » 02 Oct 2018, 02:41

I don't know what's happening but I support it.
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Re: General Domestic Issues

Postby mat.gopack » 02 Oct 2018, 02:52

The revolutions in Gliese 687 and Ellie come with a new message - that of the Red Vanguard.

Rumored and heard about during the revolution in Turkmenistan, the group has now taken its first public steps - with the successful organizing of two more revolutions, and the liberation of two star systems.

This news comes at a time in which the Union is already trending towards the support of such revolutions...
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Re: General Domestic Issues

Postby kingpie3 » 02 Oct 2018, 03:07

The official opinion of Consortium officials is as long as it doesn't offend the Pure Faith or harm the Holy Land, these conflicts are distant and sad. We offer brotherhood to all those who flee the wave of violent socialism so that they can join the corporation's Divine Charter and toil in honor of one of the Guilds.

The Baujantec Consortium embraces its position as a peaceful major power and prays for smoother times ahead. May Janisis and its Xa'esphric Lords watch over all nations, regardless of their political orientation.
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Re: General Domestic Issues

Postby beadsman » 02 Oct 2018, 05:11

Cyon remains neutral with regards to these attacks, but condemns them on principle of being violent and forceful. This only further proves our fears of socialist treachery founded.

I mean, come on. Do your really expect people to be okay with terrorists targeting them? Subs, even you have to admit that my paranoia is grounded in actual facts. It's true that being paranoid usually leads to massive overreaction, at least in my case, but I don't actually usually go to war unless I have good reason to be really paranoid of the enemy.
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Re: General Domestic Issues

Postby mat.gopack » 02 Oct 2018, 05:45

beadsman wrote:Cyon remains neutral with regards to these attacks, but condemns them on principle of being violent and forceful. This only further proves our fears of socialist treachery founded.

I mean, come on. Do your really expect people to be okay with terrorists targeting them? Subs, even you have to admit that my paranoia is grounded in actual facts. It's true that being paranoid usually leads to massive overreaction, at least in my case, but I don't actually usually go to war unless I have good reason to be really paranoid of the enemy.

Here we see the capitalist view - when the workers of a system band together for their own benefit, they are 'terrorists'. When the bosses exploit their labor, working them to the bone, to the death - it is freedom.

Revolutions in those systems succeeded because of a simple reason - the people were behind it.

And Cyon wishes to have that reversed, to see them enslaved.
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