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Re: General Domestic Issues

Postby Subotai45 » 18 Aug 2018, 20:52

Power to the "people" as long as they're rich, am I right? In the Empire, we recognize the right that all have to an afterlife.
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Re: General Domestic Issues

Postby mat.gopack » 18 Aug 2018, 21:02

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musashisamurai wrote:To boost failing popularity [...], the Crown has used eminent domain to claim and expand the royal sector. [...] The Imperial Palace is being expanded, with new wings and plazas added, [...]


How to make yourself more popular as a king - increase taxes, take land within your own country, and use it to expand your palace. 10/10 ;)

For your cloaked island, I'm assuming it's manmade, right? It'd be hard to have hidden it otherwise ;)

@beads - wow, you just went and put a literal price on people's lives. The propaganda writes itself! If I were a socialist in Cyon, I'd be salivating at the gift you just gave them ^^


I plan to later make it available to all, but for now, this is what I have to work with.

Even in a capitalist society, subsidies could have been provided for those toiling to enrich the bank accounts of their wealthy magnate overlords (who, not to forget, control 1/4 of Cyon's government through bloodline). Instead, it is a clear, crass monetary transaction - more than the average income of a Cyonian citizen. So even if one tried to save up for it, an entire year of work with no expenses would not be enough to afford this.
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Re: General Domestic Issues

Postby beadsman » 18 Aug 2018, 21:09

To be honest, it's meant more as a way for other countries to use this tech (OOC for RP purposes). The Cyonian Imperial Senate is currently in session to discuss government aid and monetary support for the less-privileged members of society so they can participate in this amazing new program.

In fact, there is talk of a radically revamped internal aid system to better provide for our own. It's still being discussed, though.
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Re: General Domestic Issues

Postby Subotai45 » 18 Aug 2018, 23:11

A crippling miners' strike ripples across Ironhill province. After several days, the noble in charge of the mines brings in scabs to break the strike and continue the operation as normal. This works temporarily, but an armed group of miners, under the Ironhill Miners' Soviet, dispersed the scabs and has established control of the mines.

The national government is yet to step in, but it is an issue in the upcoming Commissarial elections. While one candidate is the typical petty-noble bureaucrat, another, who has become surprisingly popular in recent debates, is labelled a "red," calling for an end to suppression of all political parties and greater popular participation in government.
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Re: General Domestic Issues

Postby musashisamurai » 19 Aug 2018, 00:07

mat.gopack wrote:
musashisamurai wrote:To boost failing popularity [...], the Crown has used eminent domain to claim and expand the royal sector. [...] The Imperial Palace is being expanded, with new wings and plazas added, [...]


How to make yourself more popular as a king - increase taxes, take land within your own country, and use it to expand your palace. 10/10 ;)

For your cloaked island, I'm assuming it's manmade, right? It'd be hard to have hidden it otherwise ;)

@beads - wow, you just went and put a literal price on people's lives. The propaganda writes itself! If I were a socialist in Cyon, I'd be salivating at the gift you just gave them ^^



Lol, my royals aren't the best at honesty and the current Queen is by far the nicest-she actually didn't have ulterior motives with the charities (but because of her low experience at that point, also didn't realize why her citizens might not appreciate it)

Yes. But its also been hidden since the Paction War, so I'd definitely say man-made or not wouldn't matter as much; some of these regions aren't exactly teh most navigated or traveled, and there are tons of small isles all over the place. Add in nuclear wars, and you can see why some islands would also "dissapear" as well
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Re: General Domestic Issues

Postby MinnesotanKaiser » 19 Aug 2018, 01:53

Across the nation screens go silent, workers cease as if unplugged, teachers walk out of class to the bewilderment of their pupils. A nation ceases to operate at its normal harmonic rhythm. Within ten seconds later the Worker’s Republic and the West African people receive a message with mixed emotions and feelings.

Broadcasted throughout the nation, Secretary General Maurice Rolande announces a jarring message:

“After extensive talks with fellow leaders of the IWA at our annual Leaders Conference, it has been decided that in favor of the workers of the world that the IWA step into the League War on their behalf. Oppression of the lower classes and less fortunate of the world has gone on for too long. Therefore, I wish to issue the following declaration to my brethren and the world.

“The IWA officially declares war on the Cooperative and on the Power to the People League. For clarification, these states include the Cooperative, Asterian Republic, Oriental Republic, Republic of Thailand, Khan Republic, New Texas, Federal Republic of Brazil, Techabaun Federation, Cyon Imperium, Empire of Brazil, and the Atlantic Imperium.

“We call upon the PPL to surrender to us upon these terms: - The PPL will rename itself to become an explicitly capitalist organization. Each member of the PPL will allow socialist parties within their systems, who are members of the IWA (and supported by the IWA). Brazil will become unified under the Brazilian Socialist Union.

“We call upon the Cooperative to surrender upon these terms - The Cooperative will allow the domestic existence of socialist parties, who are members of & supported by the IWA. The Cooperative will place 9% of its board vote (or 49% - (currently controlled by non-cons players) in the hands of the IWA, and a further 15% in the hands of popularly elected representatives tasked with executing the direct will of the people of the Cooperative.

“To my fellow brethren of West Africa and other IWA states, I wish to aid them in finding solace in the coming sacrifice by reminding them of the great deeds our young men and women will be doing for the world. The world is filled with unjust systems that have been allowed to exist for too long. Our enemies have divided the people of Brazil, Centralia, and Thailand. We seek to end this injustice.

“With the people willing, onwards for the Republic!”

“Onwards for socialism!”

As suddenly as the announcement began, it ended. For the rest of the day, the nation would process what they had just heard. For the first time in West African history, the nation was witnessing its government declaring war on several other strong and well-established states.

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Re: General Domestic Issues

Postby beadsman » 19 Aug 2018, 02:01

We already allow for a socialist part within our nation, but it is pretty unpopular right now. We also have backed out of the PPL, partially due to the lack of clarity regarding the purpose of the organization.

We value democracy, and as such, all are entitled to their free and open opinion. That includes three existence of the Cyonian Socialist Party. They are welcome to do whatever they wish, aside from treason and/or rebellion. That sort of thing would be met with force.

So, it looks like Cyon has actually already met your terms. We request that you please redact your declaration.

EDIT: I get to keep the Empire of Brazil, though. That's all I ask. They're my protectorate. New Cyonica is also technically in Brazil, and I'd like to keep that. Feel free to officially add the Cyonian Socialist Party to the IWA.
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Re: General Domestic Issues

Postby mat.gopack » 19 Aug 2018, 02:14

beadsman wrote:We already allow for a socialist part within our nation, but it is pretty unpopular right now. We also have backed out of the PPL, partially due to the lack of clarity regarding the purpose of the organization.

We value democracy, and as such, all are entitled to their free and open opinion. That includes three existence of the Cyonian Socialist Party. They are welcome to do whatever they wish, aside from treason and/or rebellion. That sort of thing would be met with force.

So, it looks like Cyon has actually already met your terms. We request that you please redact your declaration.

EDIT: I get to keep the Empire of Brazil, though. That's all I ask. They're my protectorate. New Cyonica is also technically in Brazil, and I'd like to keep that. Feel free to officially add the Cyonian Socialist Party to the IWA.

Of course, should Cyon surrender and accept the terms of the IWA, there would be no need for war. To recap, these terms are:
1) Should Cyon remain in the PPL, that it become an explicitly capitalist league.
2) That Cyon allow communist & socialist parties that are in solidarity with the worldwide brotherhood and sisterhood of socialism/communism (ie - directly funded/supported by the IWA)
3) That Cyon does not do anything to halt the unification of Brazil under the Brazilian Socialist Union.

From your message, it appears that 1.5/3 of these have been met - namely, that Cyon is leaving the PPL and that it currently allows socialist/communist parties. However, there is no mention of allowing them to join extra national organizations/receive solidarity support - as well as, on the other hand, resisting the freeing of Brazil under a single socialist government, and instead clinging on to their puppet state of the Empire of Brazil.
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Re: General Domestic Issues

Postby mat.gopack » 19 Aug 2018, 02:15

(Oh, and in case it isn't clear - the Union of Mattibean Communes voted alongside the Worker's Republic of Terra in this declaration of war)
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Re: General Domestic Issues

Postby Zander » 19 Aug 2018, 02:16

Subotai45 wrote:Power to the "people" as long as they're rich, am I right? In the Empire, we recognize the right that all have to an afterlife.


You mean those -mechanical copies- of people living in some stinking metal box?

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