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Re: Federation of United Nations (F.U.N.)

Postby jpstreetman » 04 Feb 2019, 19:20

The Republic of Transylvania would like to apply for 10 bn cc from the samaritan fund for the construction of two deuterium fusion power plants that would allow every citizen of Transylvania access to affordable, clean power, and provide a million jobs in plant safety and upkeep.
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Re: Federation of United Nations (F.U.N.)

Postby mat.gopack » 04 Feb 2019, 20:02

jpstreetman wrote:The Republic of Transylvania would like to apply for 10 bn cc from the samaritan fund for the construction of two deuterium fusion power plants that would allow every citizen of Transylvania access to affordable, clean power, and provide a million jobs in plant safety and upkeep.

A million jobs from two plants seems excessive ;)

Just make it a million jobs in the wider economy from the cheaper & more available energy.
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Re: Federation of United Nations (F.U.N.)

Postby jpstreetman » 04 Feb 2019, 20:19

ok, a million jobs from the economic impact of the plants.
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Re: Federation of United Nations (F.U.N.)

Postby mat.gopack » 04 Feb 2019, 20:29

I'm sure when Jon gets it he'll give the funds over (the Samaritan fund is heavily his thing). But if he doesn't the UMC foreign development office can cover it, unless you have no worker protections at all ;)
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Re: Federation of United Nations (F.U.N.)

Postby jonisilk » 05 Feb 2019, 00:31

Hi JP,

The full balance of the Samaritan Fund grant (1 trn = 1,000,000,000,000 cc), has already been transferred to your treasury and is ready for you to use.

We only ask that you account for it's spending, to ensure it hasn't been used to cover military purchases/expenditures.

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Re: Federation of United Nations (F.U.N.)

Postby Subotai45 » 25 Feb 2019, 22:33

jonisilk wrote:A discussion on Universal Rights (inclusive of non-human species, such as Venusians). Though not a problem in most developed nations, it is a potential problem for newer powers and as such is worthy of discussion. What constitutes a Universal Rights issue and how should we look to respond?


This forum for discussion has been dormant for too long. The VSFSR believes that this discussion of universal rights is long overdue, and will participate in the discussions fully.

We suggest the creation of a multi-chaptered "Declaration of Universal Rights" that includes several chapters, which nations may ratify individually or as a collective: eg, the Pacificans may not ratify (for example) Chapter II: On the Rights of Machine Intelligences or Chapter III: The Abolition of Forced Labour, while the VSFSR may not ratify Chapter IV: Forbidden Inheritable Genetic Treatments.

The goal is to create as complete a declaration of universal rights as possible while recognizing the limitations of this body; namely, we can't force adoption, nor do we have the real capacity to punish violations. However, a statement of intent that we can build off of would be useful.

If any other member-state wishes to second this idea and toss out a potential first chapter idea for discussion, the VSFSR would look favorably upon that motion.
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Re: Federation of United Nations (F.U.N.)

Postby RedSun » 26 Feb 2019, 16:45

First Chapter: The Freedom of Navigation

The ability for people’s to relocate by their own choice is essential. A governmental body should not have the capability to restrain individuals from traveling where they wish. Governments may be able to limit people from public financed structures such as government and military facilities that serve a purpose to the security of the state but they may not prohibit people from leaving their country, traveling the country or to non-public financed structures.

This may be elaborated on, this was just an idea.
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Re: Federation of United Nations (F.U.N.)

Postby beadsman » 26 Feb 2019, 17:44

Second Chapter: Civil Prisoner Treatment

All prisoners and detainees must be kept in a clean, humane environment. They must be provided with adequate food, medical assistance, shelter, protection, and amenities. Digital prisons based on virtual reality and/or mind uploading technology are not exempt from these (in that case, entirely virtual) requirements to ensure a minimum level of comfort for prisoners. No prisoners may be treated differently in prison based on race, species/sub-species, religious belief, and/or sexual preference/orientation. All prisoners of war should be given the choice to return to their families and home nation once a conflict is ended. Civilians can not be made prisoners of war without just cause as determined by the F.U.N. Summary execution of prisoners is not permitted unless the prisoner is an individual who was, prior to the execution, deemed by the F.U.N. as a War Criminal or they were sentenced to death prior to imprisonment according to the preexisting laws of the country of their citizenship.

I think I basically covered everything.
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Re: Federation of United Nations (F.U.N.)

Postby Subotai45 » 26 Feb 2019, 19:13

RedSun wrote:First Chapter: The Freedom of Navigation

The ability for people’s to relocate by their own choice is essential. A governmental body should not have the capability to restrain individuals from traveling where they wish. Governments may be able to limit people from public financed structures such as government and military facilities that serve a purpose to the security of the state but they may not prohibit people from leaving their country, traveling the country or to non-public financed structures.

This may be elaborated on, this was just an idea.


The VSFSR questions the naming of the chapter, for one. Freedom of navigation, according to our view, is more akin to the following definition pulled from that great and venerable repository of human knowledge, Wikipedia.

Freedom of navigation (FON) is a principle of customary international law that ships flying the flag of any sovereign state shall not suffer interference from other states, apart from the exceptions provided for in international law


In our view, you wish to propose something more like freedom of movement, but we have some questions as to your intent. One; is this solely intended to apply within a country, eg, a citizen of the VSFSR ought to be able to travel anywhere within the VSFSR, or does it intend to apply universally, eg, any citizen of any nation has the right to travel and settle within the VSFSR?

Two, your declaration seems to imply that anyone may travel to any other private dwelling, regardless of the wishes of its inhabitants, without recourse to the government coming in and preventing said intruder.

Third, this chapter does not recognize other legitimate reasons for the government to restrain settlement and travel to certain areas. On Venus, there is the immense conservation system, where some areas benefit strongly from lack of human interaction, and land set aside for indigenous peoples, where the majority ethnicity is prevented from settling and disrupting the local way of life.

These are not insurmountable issues, your key focus seems to be what I'd call the "Freedom of Emigration", the idea that a person ought to be able to leave their current location and go somewhere else. If that is the goal, removing some of the prohibitions on direction (eg they ought to be allowed to *go* anywhere) while keeping the intent that people ought to be able to leave anywhere, would be more acceptable and easier to work with.
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Re: Federation of United Nations (F.U.N.)

Postby Subotai45 » 26 Feb 2019, 19:15

beadsman wrote:Second Chapter: Civil Prisoner Treatment

All prisoners and detainees must be kept in a clean, humane environment. They must be provided with adequate food, medical assistance, shelter, protection, and amenities. Digital prisons based on virtual reality and/or mind uploading technology are not exempt from these (in that case, entirely virtual) requirements to ensure a minimum level of comfort for prisoners. No prisoners may be treated differently in prison based on race, species/sub-species, religious belief, and/or sexual preference/orientation. All prisoners of war should be given the choice to return to their families and home nation once a conflict is ended and a treaty signed. Civilians can not be made prisoners of war without just cause as determined by the F.U.N. Summary execution of prisoners is not permitted unless the prisoner is an individual who was, prior to the execution, deemed by the F.U.N. as a War Criminal or they were sentenced to death prior to imprisonment according to the preexisting laws of the country of their citizenship.

I think I basically covered everything.


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