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Re: The League of Cairo

Postby narwhalwarlord » 13 Oct 2018, 23:24

The Provisional Revolutionary Extrasolar Union deplores mass terrorism, but also expresses its extreme displeasure with the Earth powers and their use of militaristic political terror. It denounces the ongoing Mobian imperialist meddling and deplores the recent NVC announcement as a direct threat against the freedom and independence of the colonies. This new surge in Cairo funding is very clearly a first step towards establishing neo-colonial dominance over the extra-solar peoples, exploiting their resources and immiserating their workers to prop up a rotting culture. The blood of the colonials will no longer feed the decadent consumerism of the millennia-old oppressor states. The PREU therefore announces an absolute economic separation from the Earth powers and their dependencies excepting the IWA membership and has announced its intent to ban any commerce which in any way interacts with these aforementioned powers. Independence or death!
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Re: The League of Cairo

Postby Zander » 13 Oct 2018, 23:30

any commerce which in any way interacts with these aforementioned powers. Independence or death!


Mattopian brethren, the PREU has cut economic ties with you! Join us in proper Terran fashion!
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Re: The League of Cairo

Postby narwhalwarlord » 13 Oct 2018, 23:50

The PREU offers an exception to fund literacy programs for the bloated Mobian hierarchs given their obvious problems with reading comprehension, although it's doubted that they could ever grip a text given the drastic contrast between their stubby atrophied arms and their orb-like girth. The PREU further reminds the NVC as part of the literacy program's interpretation section that Baron Vladimir Harkonnen was not actually the good guy and having your heads of state look. act, and stare at teens like him isn't actually a good thing.
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Re: The League of Cairo

Postby Zander » 14 Oct 2018, 00:13

The PREU therefore announces an absolute economic separation from the Earth powers and their dependencies excepting the IWA membership and has announced its intent to ban any commerce which in any way interacts with these aforementioned powers. Independence or death!


?? Are the PREU that ignorant of Terran economic policy? I suppose critical thinking can't be expected from offworlders.

Mattopia has a tit-for-tat trade policy, with some specific exceptions regarding worker's rights. Most nations on Earth have free trade (or tit-for-tat), and Earth has a global economy. Therefore, effectively, nearly all Mattopian commercial activity interacts with non-IWA Earth powers either directly or indirectly. Trade with Mattopia is banned in all but name under this law.

Unless you, in fact, you plan to exclude Mattopian commerce from this restriction. But you should have specified that. I wouldn't, though, because Earth powers would be able to use Mattopia as a free-trade conduit: a victory for their shipping cooperatives, I am sure, but not for your """complete economic separation."""
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Re: The League of Cairo

Postby mat.gopack » 14 Oct 2018, 00:29

Zander wrote:
The PREU therefore announces an absolute economic separation from the Earth powers and their dependencies excepting the IWA membership and has announced its intent to ban any commerce which in any way interacts with these aforementioned powers. Independence or death!


?? Are the PREU that ignorant of Terran economic policy? I suppose critical thinking can't be expected from offworlders.

Mattopia has a tit-for-tat trade policy, with some specific exceptions regarding worker's rights. Most nations on Earth have free trade (or tit-for-tat), and Earth has a global economy. Therefore, effectively, nearly all Mattopian commercial activity interacts with non-IWA Earth powers either directly or indirectly. Trade with Mattopia is banned in all but name under this law.

Unless you, in fact, you plan to exclude Mattopian commerce from this restriction. But you should have specified that. I wouldn't, though, because Earth powers would be able to use Mattopia as a free-trade conduit: a victory for their shipping cooperatives, I am sure, but not for your """complete economic separation."""

("excepting the IWA membership" is in there)

The UMC comments that Cairo is an excellent forum for the debate of Earth issues and earth nations - as such, greater international collaboration between the nations of mankind's origin is always well regarded, especially when it is targeted at preventing atrocities on the scale of what happened on Mars.

However, the simplest way to avoid such issues is to also foster close relations with the people of those other planets, which includes populations of all three members of Cairo's security council. The UMC urges further deployment of Cairo's humongous reserve funds to aid with disasters around not only Earth, but any planet or system that requires that aid.
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Re: The League of Cairo

Postby Zander » 14 Oct 2018, 00:58

Naw, Matt, he made two statements there. One of which IWA members are explicitly exempt from, the other one they are not.

1. "The PREU therefore announces an absolute economic separation from the Earth powers and their dependencies excepting the IWA membership"
>He is stopping trade with non IWA earth powers.<

2. "and has announced its intent to ban any commerce which in any way interacts with these aforementioned powers."
>and he is banning any commercial activity that in "any way" involves the aforementioned non-IWA earth powers. The words "any commerce" are explicitly used, and no exception is given for commerce done in IWA nations.<

As written, this bans trade with any Mattopian firm that trades with any non-IWA power. And, assuming free trade is widespread, commercial interaction on Earth should be fairly ubiquitous.
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Re: The League of Cairo

Postby Zander » 14 Oct 2018, 01:05

The UMC comments that Cairo is an excellent forum for the debate of Earth issues and earth nations - as such, greater international collaboration between the nations of mankind's origin is always well regarded, especially when it is targeted at preventing atrocities on the scale of what happened on Mars.

However, the simplest way to avoid such issues is to also foster close relations with the people of those other planets, which includes populations of all three members of Cairo's security council. The UMC urges further deployment of Cairo's humongous reserve funds to aid with disasters around not only Earth, but any planet or system that requires that aid.


An interesting idea. It steps a bit out of the bounds of our initial founding framework, but given the tragedy on Mars, a more proactive approach may be necessary.

What do the nations of Earth say?
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Re: The League of Cairo

Postby musashisamurai » 14 Oct 2018, 01:57

As the Crown Charities have become active on Mars and outside if Sol even, I do support thag
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Re: The League of Cairo

Postby beadsman » 14 Oct 2018, 02:02

I'm down with that.
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Re: The League of Cairo

Postby Subotai45 » 15 Oct 2018, 20:18

While we always stand in solidarity with the Space Comrades, the VSFSR is not imposing such drastic commercial isolation, being quite attached to our traditional dominance in the arms trade and the prosperity it brings us. However, while we have come to expect this lack of integrity from the Terrans, we continue to be disappointed. Rather than raise a large conventional army with the claim it will combat terrorism (which, as our African socialist brethren have rightly pointed out, is generally ineffective - not sure how your tankers would shoot down an asteroid, or how a large conventional force will hunt them down in their hidey-holes) just admit you're setting up the processes to fight the Universal People's Federation, which as the newest embodiment of the Venusian civilization-state, is the sole extrasolar threat that Mobius and their lackeys have given a rip about for untold centuries.

We do not think you are so foolish as to think that this is a viable plan to combat terrorism - don't insult us by thinking we won't see through your transparent attempt to hide your intent. We have yet no evidence that the attack was not, in fact, committed by a Terran terrorist organization, such as Liberation, the largest, deadliest, and most long-lasting terrorist organization the world has ever known.
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