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On the small map and under the arrows I saw the army in Byzantium as orange! Obviously, I should have taken notice of the background colour.

So at one level we have a stalemate line defined at last, provided that the east has managed to get a fleet into Reed Sea early enough - it would require testing in a real game to know whether that attempt weakened the defence elsewhere.

On the other hand, if the defence had managed to get a fleet into Dacia earlier, it would break the line. But that really would be a tough job.

Pedros wrote:On the other hand, if the defence had managed to get a fleet into Dacia earlier, it would break the line.

True. But an iron-clad line can be formed if, in addition to moving one of extra units to Reed Sea, the other spare is moved to F Black Sea. Then it doesn't matter whether the enemy unit in Dacia is a fleet or an army. Alternatively, A Galatia or A Sinope could be replaced by F Black Sea. But in practice, it seems like A Dacia and empty Black Sea would be a lot more likely.

I spent a while trying to either contract or expand this line, and couldn't find any nearby variations. Certainly, stalemate lines are a lot harder to find on this map than the standard one. (Technically, C/R do have a line of their own here, but traditionally lines holding more than 17 centers don't count.)

jaelis - you're on top of this one. Do you want to write it up for a separate thread in this forum, "Ancient Med stalemate line"?

Sure, I'll write something up. I think I found another line too.

Meh, perhaps you guys are right regarding stalemate lines. I feel that there is too much congestion at the Sinai/ Egypt border, I once took 11 years of grit just to crack it, by which time Carthage soloed (I was Persia)

Still too naval though. Have fun with it?

Perhaps you should have changed your strategy!

Pedros wrote:Perhaps you should have changed your strategy!

I probably should have .