Mafia CLXI: A Completely Normal Game of Mafia - Scum Win!

[Nanook]

Whoa whoa whoa. What? Several problems here. First, condude isn't a null read, and neither are you. Second, my read of you changing between D3 and D6 isn't inconsistent, it's just how the game works. If my reads of players from D1 never changed, I wouldn't be lynching any of you! I also think you should go back and read some of my posts from D4 about you, because while I was townleaning you, I definitely wasn't sure of it. Im pretty sure you can see that in my posts, if you read them over again. I thought you might be scum, but were probably town. Now I think you might be town, but are probably scum. Again, this is a natural evolution if you read my posts thoroughly.

So yeah, this isn't a 50/50 to me. More like a 70/30, or an 80/20 maybe. It's not gonna get better than that at this point, so yeah, I'm not 100% confident, but I'm comfortable.

[Nanook]

Also, your behavior largely on D5 and today. Which I obviously didn't have access to before it happened.

[Strategus]

Also, your behavior largely on D5 and today. Which I obviously didn't have access to before it happened.

What behaviour? Ain't I been a good boy?

[Nanook]

Also, your behavior largely on D5 and today. Which I obviously didn't have access to before it happened.

What behaviour? Ain't I been a good boy?

It's gonna sound like this discussion is over, but that's only because this discussion is over.

[Strategus]

Whoa whoa whoa. What? Several problems here. First, condude isn't a null read, and neither are you. Second, my read of you changing between D3 and D6 isn't inconsistent, it's just how the game works. If my reads of players from D1 never changed, I wouldn't be lynching any of you! I also think you should go back and read some of my posts from D4 about you, because while I was townleaning you, I definitely wasn't sure of it. Im pretty sure you can see that in my posts, if you read them over again. I thought you might be scum, but were probably town. Now I think you might be town, but are probably scum. Again, this is a natural evolution if you read my posts thoroughly.

So yeah, this isn't a 50/50 to me. More like a 70/30, or an 80/20 maybe. It's not gonna get better than that at this point, so yeah, I'm not 100% confident, but I'm comfortable.

This doesn't make sense. For a start you are wrong about another townie being scum. Secondly, earlier you said it was POE, but now you think I am 70-80% scum. So how much % scum is condude, based on your paranoia factor?

[Strategus]

Also, your behavior largely on D5 and today. Which I obviously didn't have access to before it happened.

What behaviour? Ain't I been a good boy?

It's gonna sound like this discussion is over, but that's only because this discussion is over.

Yeah, because you have no case.

[Nanook]

Whoa whoa whoa. What? Several problems here. First, condude isn't a null read, and neither are you. Second, my read of you changing between D3 and D6 isn't inconsistent, it's just how the game works. If my reads of players from D1 never changed, I wouldn't be lynching any of you! I also think you should go back and read some of my posts from D4 about you, because while I was townleaning you, I definitely wasn't sure of it. Im pretty sure you can see that in my posts, if you read them over again. I thought you might be scum, but were probably town. Now I think you might be town, but are probably scum. Again, this is a natural evolution if you read my posts thoroughly.

So yeah, this isn't a 50/50 to me. More like a 70/30, or an 80/20 maybe. It's not gonna get better than that at this point, so yeah, I'm not 100% confident, but I'm comfortable.

This doesn't make sense. For a start you are wrong about another townie being scum. Secondly, earlier you said it was POE, but now you think I am 70-80% scum. So how much % scum is condude, based on your paranoia factor?

I said it was PARTLY poe.I think there's a 70-80% chance you are the scum. So the odds of condude being scum are...well between him and Shadow I'd say it's 60/40 for him...let's make it easy and say it's a 20% chance it's one of them, 60% of 20 is 12, so let's say a 12% chance of condude being scum, and an 8% chance of Shadow being scum.

[shadowface]

You've been reading me (correctly) as town all the way through the game. If you were town, you knew for sure after I intervened between you and Joe, and you backed off shadow as soon as I did the same. And anyway, I am saying you are mafia, so that's the obvious reason right now.

How can you know that this is the reason for his read on you (as opposed to him just being a townie who is playing with you for the first time and thus gave you leeway at the start of the game but then saw your play becoming more scummy)? Also, how can we know that you are town, which is needed for this argument to even be plausible?

I actually feel quite confident about the GPD lynch. Day 6 has only served to affirm my suspicions from EOD5. I should have about 45 minutes or so tomorrow morning and then I'm on a mountaintop until unfortunately after EOD.

What suspicions from EOD5?

When you decided to park a vote on condude and not try to solve the game.

Uh, backwards. If he doesn't know your alignment he's cleared town.

I'm saying he is mafia. But I was saying he knows very well that I am town just from my interactions. I get that it can't be 100%, but he had no reason to vote for me. You did, as I got on your case, and I think Shadow followed you, as she believes strongly that you are town read.

GPD, I townread you as well for atleast a few game days. Is it scummy now that I decided to vote for you as well?

Oh, and 4) I've town read all three of you for good chunks of this game, condude for even longer than I have you and shadow was my first or second highest town read for a good two days...so why does this logic only apply to me voting you, but not when I voted for shadow, or had suspicion of condude?

I posted my logic. I don't expect you to buy into it, as I am accusing you, but I am not going to keep repeating myself.

As a general point, you don't need to convince the guy you're arguing with as much as the rest of the town. So even if nanook doesn't buy into it, if you could convince condude and I you'd be making progress.

It's gonna sound like this discussion is over, but that's only because this discussion is over.

Don't feel like you have to answer these arguments, nanook. They logically don't follow. GPD is cornered scum.

End Day if you guys want, because I'm leaving in about 20 minutes and there's no point in GPD and nanook sitting here for 24 hours without participation from condude and I.

[Strategus]

I am not cornered scum. Like I say, you can leave your votes where they are, but you lose. At least the game will end. I am not even going to bother answering your questions, as I have already answered them all before.

[Strategus]

End Day Congratulations to the winner, whoever you are.