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Re: Push and Pull Mafia Game Thread Day 7

Postby Subotai45 » 05 Feb 2017, 23:49

I'm like 90% sure lynching telleo is the way to go but I'm wondering if there's a night game way out of this.
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Re: Push and Pull Mafia Game Thread Day 7

Postby Subotai45 » 05 Feb 2017, 23:50

Dodgy 5 pull
Telleo 5 push
Me 0

Telleo pull dodgy (Dodgy at 9 pull, telleo at 9 push)
Dodgy push Telleo (Dodgy at 12 pull, Telleo at 12 push)
Me push telleo (Me 5 pull, Telleo 17 push)
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Re: Push and Pull Mafia Game Thread Day 7

Postby Telleo » 05 Feb 2017, 23:53

dodgy56 wrote:whats the town reason for Killing Crunkus? if he was scum, he would have died toight? why the need to speed the game up if youre town?


...yes?

Look, if I'm town, then I believed Crunkus was scum. So rather than wait through a day of everyone casting Telleo votes and then twiddling their thumbs before killing Crunkus, I figured I'd expedite the process. I was also uninterested in leaving Crunkus with a day to talk his way out of things. I suppose I've left myself now to try to talk my way out of things, but that legitimately didn't occur to me last night at all. I expected the game to be over by now.

as far as i can tell, the only reason not to follow the plan, was if your death today was actually an issue. and if crunkus was scum it wasnt. the scum motive for killing crunkus and not following the plan is far greater than a town motive of "i wanted to speed the game up". run me through the town benefits, of you killing crunkus last night as opposed to letting Crunkus die tonight. IF you honestly believed Crunkus was scum, there was literally no benefit as far as i can tell other than to speed the game up. its just far more likely you had to attempt something to save yourself from being lynched and losing today.


This doesn't make sense. Subotai's "You just wanted to take someone with you" makes more sense. Killing Crunkus doesn't help me as scum. It doesn't hurt me either, obviously, and it's totally something I'd do as scum, but it's not a scumreadable moment.
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Re: Push and Pull Mafia Game Thread Day 7

Postby Telleo » 05 Feb 2017, 23:54

Subotai45 wrote:Dodgy 5 pull
Telleo 5 push
Me 0

Telleo pull dodgy (Dodgy at 9 pull, telleo at 9 push)
Dodgy push Telleo (Dodgy at 12 pull, Telleo at 12 push)
Me push telleo (Me 5 pull, Telleo 17 push)


If no lynch is a valid option for the day, I 100% support this option.
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Re: Push and Pull Mafia Game Thread Day 7

Postby Subotai45 » 05 Feb 2017, 23:54

I was wrong, this can be broken in a way that results in literally everyone dying. I somehow doubt that's a town win.

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Me 0

Dodgy push telleo (Dodgy 8 pull, Telleo at 8 push)
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Re: Push and Pull Mafia Game Thread Day 7

Postby Subotai45 » 05 Feb 2017, 23:55

No lynch is a valid option though, and we are also allowed to end day early.
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Re: Push and Pull Mafia Game Thread Day 7

Postby Telleo » 05 Feb 2017, 23:56

Just double checked.

No Lynch is valid.
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Re: Push and Pull Mafia Game Thread Day 7

Postby Telleo » 06 Feb 2017, 00:00

Subotai45 wrote:I was wrong, this can be broken in a way that results in literally everyone dying. I somehow doubt that's a town win.

Dodgy 5 pull
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Me 0

Dodgy push telleo (Dodgy 8 pull, Telleo at 8 push)
Me push telleo (Me 5 pull, Telleo 13 push)
Telleo pull me (Me 9 pull, telleo 17 push)



Ah. Hmmm.

Nope, you're right. Doesn't work. Back to Dodgy.
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Re: Push and Pull Mafia Game Thread Day 7

Postby Telleo » 06 Feb 2017, 00:02

Was excited because Dodgy as scum can't break that, but I suppose I can so you'd already have to be trusting me to go with it.
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Re: Push and Pull Mafia Game Thread Day 7

Postby dodgy56 » 06 Feb 2017, 00:04

Telleo wrote:The point of the plan was to prevent a final death from bypassing the final three. I have prevented the bypassing of a final three in a different way. Deviation =/= noncompliance.

Except it wasn't really. Sjg's plan for tonight involved me and sub both pulling crunkus to kill.him. There wasn't going to be a final.3. You're statement here is just wrong.
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