Push and Pull Mafia Game Thread Game Over - Mafia Victory!

[Subotai45]

Telleo

[Telleo]

I'm at 5 push. I killed Crunkus last night because I thought he was the last scum and that might speed things up a bit.

Dodgy.

I've literally 0 chance of convincing Sub to vote you, but I'm pretty damn sure it's you. You've been throwing poor shade my way for days, ever since Crunkus and Sjg started showing hesitation regarding the general town feeling around me, and as everyone's been saying to me for days, scum have a vested interest in there not being two townreads in the final three.

[Subotai45]

Actually at zero pull.

[Telleo]

Any interest in talking about this, or are we just going with the kill-Telleo-no-matter-what plan?

[Subotai45]

I was told to lynch you and your deviation makes that seem like an even better plan.

[dodgy56]

ZZ actions on d2 to me still make Sub clear. so i would be voting you either way, but you killing crunkus means i have absolutely zero reason to change my vote.

[Telleo]

I disagree.

Me killing Crunkus changed nothing.

If I was scum, I'd kill him because he's town.

If I was town, I'd kill him because I thought he's scum.

[Telleo]

The point of the plan was to prevent a final death from bypassing the final three. I have prevented the bypassing of a final three in a different way. Deviation =/= noncompliance.

[dodgy56]

whats the town reason for Killing Crunkus? if he was scum, he would have died toight? why the need to speed the game up if youre town? as far as i can tell, the only reason not to follow the plan, was if your death today was actually an issue. and if crunkus was scum it wasnt. the scum motive for killing crunkus and not following the plan is far greater than a town motive of "i wanted to speed the game up". run me through the town benefits, of you killing crunkus last night as opposed to letting Crunkus die tonight. IF you honestly believed Crunkus was scum, there was literally no benefit as far as i can tell other than to speed the game up. its just far more likely you had to attempt something to save yourself from being lynched and losing today.

[Subotai45]

Also, sjg's plan for the night was even safer than the final three, but it doesn't work with you alive.

I think it's much more likely that decided you'd rather take someone else down with you.