Mafia CLIII: Big, Medium, Small Mafia Game Thread Day 1

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Re: Big, Medium, Small Mafia Game Thread Day 1

Postby Jordan767 » 04 Oct 2016, 04:26

No but I read some of it and the connection came to mind.
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Re: Big, Medium, Small Mafia Game Thread Day 1

Postby Jordan767 » 04 Oct 2016, 04:26

Not saying the reveal was a terrible move, either, just saying you did it before most people would have.
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Re: Big, Medium, Small Mafia Game Thread Day 1

Postby Jordan767 » 04 Oct 2016, 06:21

~16h:30m to go. Would love to see some more sjg and UP.

I might not have a whole lot of time tomorrow morning, so I should put a vote down now. This may be final but I hope for some time to play some more. Doesn't look like we're going to be able to get together any special lynch plan, so kind of a free-for-all.

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Not a huge fan of the anti-town position in your first post and your stubbornness about it. Nor do I like how ill-defined it looked, as if you wanted to be ready to change. Your vote on Conq seems largely like a retaliation vote with little substance behind it. You claim to have problems but never specify what they are/were.

I'll admit it's not the best lynch. I hope to see some participation overnight and get some time to look at it tomorrow. We'll see. I wouldn't be unhappy with this lynch at this point.
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Re: Big, Medium, Small Mafia Game Thread Day 1

Postby Jordan767 » 04 Oct 2016, 06:23

Conq wrote:By the way, will we know if the vote was tied and Random.org was used? In Plague, the last game Condude GMed, we did know. Just checking.

PMed Condude about it. He says we will.
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Re: Big, Medium, Small Mafia Game Thread Day 1

Postby Conq » 04 Oct 2016, 06:57

Jordan767 wrote:
Conq wrote:By the way, will we know if the vote was tied and Random.org was used? In Plague, the last game Condude GMed, we did know. Just checking.

PMed Condude about it. He says we will.

ALERT ALERT ALERT!!!

This is awesome news. This means that the Small + Small vote scheme will give us a lot of info. If the person who the smalls vote to lynch does not die in a non-tied lynch, then one of our smalls is lying about their size. If the person who the smalls vote to lynch dies, with no tie, then our two smalls are almost certainly telling us the truth.

This is a really important thing to find out. It may lead to us getting one or two clears in this game. Not just any clears. Clears with 3 votes. Known smalls can easily become clears because if there are unexpected night kills, it means there is a scum who can kill by stomping. Only Mediums and Larges can possibly kill by stomping.

So, I'm as convinced as ever that we need our vote today to end up like this:

Target #1: Sjg, asudevil (6)
Target #2: Conq, Jordan, Large (5)
Abstain: Large

Right now, if I had to pick a complete strategy: I'd say we do this:

Sjg and asudevil vote Shadow
Conq, Jordan, and Shadow vote UsernamePending
UsernamePending abstain

At night, we do these visits:

IF SHADOW IS LYNCHED WITH NO TIE - we try to avoid deaths, and kill only one of our mediums (I'd prefer we kill Jordan, but if you guys prefer to kill me, that's fine too)
Sjg and asudevil visit each other.
Jordan and Conq visit each other
UsernamePending visits Jordan

IF USERNAME IS LYNCHED, OR THERE IS A TIE - we kill the lying liar smalls
Sjg and asudevil visit Conq or Jordan
Shadow visits Sjg
Conq visits asudevil
Jordan visits Sjg

Please ask me questions about this. I do not claim to be a strategic mastermind. But this is where my thinking is right now. Edits and comments welcomed.
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Re: Big, Medium, Small Mafia Game Thread Day 1

Postby Jordan767 » 04 Oct 2016, 07:12

I still feel like small are safer visiting mediums in the event they're both for real. We're unlikely to have lied since scum would probably go all the way to small.
If we move to kill both smalls, and the mafia somehow get their way in addition (and I wouldn't put it past them), that's 3 kills. Leaves us with a 1v1 final and that's very likely game over. nevermind that would, of course kill the scum.

How are we deciding lynch candidate number 2? I mean, #1 is pretty clearly shadow, but at this point it feels like we're pulling the second out of a hat.

Plus, of course, we have to coordinate the votes. I'm up for it if y'all are.
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Re: Big, Medium, Small Mafia Game Thread Day 1

Postby Conq » 04 Oct 2016, 07:37

Jordan767 wrote:I still feel like small are safer visiting mediums in the event they're both for real. We're unlikely to have lied since scum would probably go all the way to small.

Not if we have just verified that the two smalls are actually small. If our lynch target #1 is lynched on the strength of votes from two small players, then the smalls should absolutely visit each other.
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Re: Big, Medium, Small Mafia Game Thread Day 1

Postby asudevil » 04 Oct 2016, 14:07

Conq wrote:
Jordan767 wrote:I still feel like small are safer visiting mediums in the event they're both for real. We're unlikely to have lied since scum would probably go all the way to small.

Not if we have just verified that the two smalls are actually small. If our lynch target #1 is lynched on the strength of votes from two small players, then the smalls should absolutely visit each other.


Agreed...cause that would mean they are both small.
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Re: Big, Medium, Small Mafia Game Thread Day 1

Postby asudevil » 04 Oct 2016, 14:08

Also, for the record...Im remembering why I stopped playing Mafia...its a freaking SIX person game...with a 3day deadline...and 2 of the 6 couldn't be bothered playing. So we can't really lynch on non-activity...but they could easily be scum...just chilling and you don't know if its their plan...or no one to sub out...or whatever.

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Re: Big, Medium, Small Mafia Game Thread Day 1

Postby Jordan767 » 04 Oct 2016, 14:29

asudevil wrote:
Conq wrote:
Jordan767 wrote:I still feel like small are safer visiting mediums in the event they're both for real. We're unlikely to have lied since scum would probably go all the way to small.

Not if we have just verified that the two smalls are actually small. If our lynch target #1 is lynched on the strength of votes from two small players, then the smalls should absolutely visit each other.


Agreed...cause that would mean they are both small.

Point. I was really freaking tired.

What do we do if sjg and/or UP don't show up to vote?

PS asu: yeah it's pretty terrible...
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