How to get yourself stabbed...

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How to get yourself stabbed...

Postby blazebbc » 04 Nov 2018, 22:35

I've had more than a few folks express anger, frustration, etc. after I have turned on them... Most of the time they are in denial that any of their actions could have led to the attack. A lot of players could really improve their games with a better understanding of why they were betrayed.

1. Silence. If you don't speak to me over a period time, especially when asked about a set of orders, I am going to presume that you have turned unfriendly. If I am making a choices as to whom I should put my trust, your silence has just done you in.

2. Refusal to actually do anything. I certainly understand a little bit of caution. However, this is not a risk-free game. If you are so scared to do anything that you don't want to join an attack, you will be the target of the attack.

3. Not following through on promised orders. Even if you did not actually do something against me, if you do not follow through with a promised order, you will create mistrust. If you lack of follow-through causes our attack to stall, you really increase the chances that I turn on you.

4. Complaining that you don't trust me. Again, I understand that you don't want to leave yourself completely exposed and that you don't want to be stabbed. But, if you keep complaining to me about how little you trust me, I am going to think that your reliability is going to wane. I'm going to look for other options. Besides, it's Diplomacy. Nobody really should trust anybody. But, shut up and play.

5. Incompetence and NMR's. If you can't take advantage of a good situation or fail to submit orders, you are likely more dangerous as an ally than an enemy.

6. Giving short one-liner replies to orders I suggest. If you are not making other suggestions or taking the time to read them, I know you do not have enough invested in our alliance to be trusted. A good ally reads suggestions and looks for ways to improve orders.

7. General obnoxiousness. If you are rude, snarky or obnoxious, I won't want to keep exchanging press with you. It's unpleasant to read and I''ll be looking for a different ally.
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Re: How to get yourself stabbed...

Postby Phlegmatic » 04 Nov 2018, 22:43

Excellent post, I heartily agree with it!

Stabs are inevitable between even the best and most communicative players, but if you display the listed behaviours it greatly increases the odds of having that blade in your back instead of someone else’s.
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Re: How to get yourself stabbed...

Postby Kaptain krunch » 05 Nov 2018, 06:10

Bravo!!

;)

Very simple and relatable
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Re: How to get yourself stabbed...

Postby ColonelApricot » 05 Nov 2018, 12:19

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Re: How to get yourself stabbed...

Postby Oh Cheese » 05 Nov 2018, 12:29

I tick none of those boxes... so why do I get stabbed?!
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Re: How to get yourself stabbed...

Postby Don Juan of Austria » 05 Nov 2018, 13:13

Oh Cheese wrote:I tick none of those boxes... so why do I get stabbed?!


Check your back... I had a "Stab Me!" sign stuck to my back. ;)
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Re: How to get yourself stabbed...

Postby nanooktheeskimo » 05 Nov 2018, 13:15

The title and theme of this post is a bit victim-blamey. I'd say you might find better luck taking a "this is why I stab" tack than a "this is your fault and here's why" one.
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Re: How to get yourself stabbed...

Postby NJLonghorn » 05 Nov 2018, 14:41

I would add:

8. Asking me to do things that clearly aren't in my best interest. A good ally will never ask me to put myself at risk without a counterbalancing reward. Trying to set me up for a vicious stab is an art form that I admire, but being too obvious about it is a sure way to get yourself stabbed first.
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Re: How to get yourself stabbed...

Postby V » 05 Nov 2018, 15:37

nanooktheeskimo wrote:The title and theme of this post is a bit victim-blamey. I'd say you might find better luck taking a "this is why I stab" tack than a "this is your fault and here's why" one.


Oh how sweet! PC meets Diplomacy stabbing :lol:
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Re: How to get yourself stabbed...

Postby nanooktheeskimo » 05 Nov 2018, 15:47

V wrote:
nanooktheeskimo wrote:The title and theme of this post is a bit victim-blamey. I'd say you might find better luck taking a "this is why I stab" tack than a "this is your fault and here's why" one.


Oh how sweet! PC meets Diplomacy stabbing :lol:

Nothing to do with PC, all to do with people skills. If you tell someone "hey, sorry, this was my thinking," chances are they're gonna be a lot more willing to listen to you later in the game if you need to work with them than if you tell them "hey, this was your fault, here's why."
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