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Explain the result of these orders please

PostPosted: 25 Apr 2019, 03:42
by ummy111
ITALY

Tyrrhenian Sea MOVE Ionian Sea -> Bounced
Aegean Sea SUPPORT Tyrrhenian Sea to Ionian Sea -> Supported unit has failed

Austria

Adriatic Sea SUPPORT Apulia to Ionian Sea -> Supported unit has failed
Apulia MOVE Ionian Sea -> Destroyed by F Naples - Apulia

from this move history
https://www.playdiplomacy.com/game_history.php?game_id=154857&gdate=14&phase=O

As I understand the rules, the fleet from the Tyr S should have moved because the fleet from Apulia was dislodged by another attack. What am I missing?

Re: Explain the result of these orders please

PostPosted: 25 Apr 2019, 04:12
by SimonMH
The fleets were each supported once into Ionian. Therefore they bounce. That one of the fleets is also attacked/dislodged/destroyed in its province of origin makes no difference.

Re: Explain the result of these orders please

PostPosted: 25 Apr 2019, 04:58
by beadsman
SimonMH wrote:The fleets were each supported once into Ionian. Therefore they bounce. That one of the fleets is also attacked/dislodged/destroyed in its province of origin makes no difference.

Exactly. To further clarify, it would have succeeded if the supporting fleet had been attacked (and support cut), but since it was moving, no support is cut, it bounces, and, because of the no mans land created by the bounce, cannot retreat there. This combined with no other spaces being available for retreat resulted in its latest destruction.

The important thing to remember is that retreats and destroys (even automatic ones) technically happen after the other moves resolve.

Re: Explain the result of these orders please

PostPosted: 25 Apr 2019, 11:55
by ummy111
Thanks, I get it now. You all explained it well.