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Writing support orders

PostPosted: 15 Dec 2017, 22:23
by dwjskol
This is covered somewhere I'm sure but bear with me in new here.

This is about the point and click.

Here's a hypothetical using Austria.

A Vie S A tri-tyr
A tri-tyr

If I want A Bud S Vie in case of a supported attack from opposing A gal & boh on Vie. How do I wite that?

I click bud support vie but then it wants to know where. If I choose vie then its supporting a vie hold, but vie is not holding it's supporting tri-tyr. My only other choice is click support vie to move to somewhere. It doesn't give an option to support someone who is supporting someone else

Does that make sense? What am I not seeing correctly? Do I not understand the support rule correctly?

Thanks for clarification

Re: Writing support orders

PostPosted: 15 Dec 2017, 22:43
by Damon Huntington
Your set of orders would be the following:

A Trieste MOVES Tyrolia
A Vienna SUPPORTS A Trieste MOVES Tyrolia
A Budapest SUPPORTS Vienna HOLDS

When a support order is cut, it automatically converts to a HOLD order (Check the "Cutting Support" header here - https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Diplomacy/Rules). Therefore, in order to support Vienna to hold in the event of an attack, the last movement should be a support to hold.

Re: Writing support orders

PostPosted: 16 Dec 2017, 00:22
by dwjskol
Thanks. That's what I was wondering. I appreciate the help.

Re: Writing support orders

PostPosted: 16 Dec 2017, 12:21
by Malarky
Simpler than that, even. A unit ordered to support is also holding, ie it isn't moving anywhere. So, in this case, whether A Vie is attacked (and its support cut) or not, it can still be supported to hold.

Re: Writing support orders

PostPosted: 16 Dec 2017, 13:17
by Jegpeg
Nibbler wrote:Simpler than that, even. A unit ordered to support is also holding, ie it isn't moving anywhere. So, in this case, whether A Vie is attacked (and its support cut) or not, it can still be supported to hold.


This is the correct way of thinking about it.

You support a fleet that is ordered to convoy in exactly the same way, and the support works and the convoy succeeds for example:

England
F NTH C Yor-Bel
F ENC S NTH Hold

Germany
F Den - Nth
F Hol S Den-NTH

Results in the convoy succeeding and Germany's attack on NTH failing 2v2.