Bounced on one unit while attack supported?

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Bounced on one unit while attack supported?

Postby Lavron » 16 Sep 2017, 03:08

Hey all,

So I'm a bit confused by a rules outcome in a friends game. Situation is was as follows:

Italy Fleet Spain
Italy Army Peidmont
France Army Marseilles

Ok, so
Spain Sup Pei->Mar
Pei->Mar
Mar->Pie

causes a bounce (which happened and confused me), but if Mar had held or attacked Spain then Peidmont ends up in Mar. Can I get some clarification as to what's happening or the associated rule? The way I see is its a 2v1 thing.
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Re: Bounced on one unit while attack supported?

Postby Bromley86 » 16 Sep 2017, 03:25

Completing the picture:

Marseilles MOVE Piedmont -> Bounced
Tyrolia SUPPORT Marseilles to Piedmont -> Supported unit has failed

BTW, it's useful to get into the habit of thinking of the Fleets as occupying the relevant coast.
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Re: Bounced on one unit while attack supported?

Postby Lavron » 16 Sep 2017, 03:44

Yes, I get that fleets occupy coasts. No other units interacted with these units. So why does a Spain supports Peidmont to Marseilles fail when Marseilles attacks Peidmont, but succeed if Marseilles holds or attacks Spain?

Should not Marseilles be dislodged regardless of its own action?
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Re: Bounced on one unit while attack supported?

Postby WHSeward » 16 Sep 2017, 03:58

It is a bounce because it is a 2v2 head-to-head conflict (Mar & Trl v Spa & Pie). No one wins, so neither unit advances.

If you think Mar should have been dislodged, ask yourself why Pie shouldn't have been dislodged? Which one should get to move? The answer is neither. It is a bounce in a fair fight.

Does that make sense?
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Re: Bounced on one unit while attack supported?

Postby WarSmith » 16 Sep 2017, 09:54

Looks like he missed the fact Tyrolia (controlled by a 3rd power) provided a support. And 2v2.
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