2 vs 2 but moving across borders

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2 vs 2 but moving across borders

Postby neils » 23 Mar 2008, 07:55

Is it possible for armies in a 2 vs 2 situation to switch places as simultaneous attacks move to different spaces? Example:
France has army Belgium and army Burgundy. Germany has army Ruhr and army Munich.
France's orders are Belgium to Ruhr, Burgundy support Belgium to Ruhr. Germany orders Ruhr to attack Burgundy, support from Munich. Will the fact that Ruhr is leaving its space make it immune to the attack from Belgium, making it a 2 vs 1 in Burgundy with Belgium taking Ruhr, and Ruhr taking Burgundy?

I tried looking through the rules forum, but couldn't find a ruling on the same kind of situation. Any help is appreciated.
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Re: 2 vs 2 but moving across borders

Postby brenton » 23 Mar 2008, 12:45

That one is an easy one.

Ruhr moves to burgundy. Ruhr also cuts the support from burgundy for Belg -> Ruhr. However, Ruhr is no longer occupied, so belgium can move straight in with a 1v0.

So, orders would look like:
Belgium MOVE Ruhr -> Resolved
Burgundy SUPPORT Belgium to Ruhr -> Support cut by A Ruh to Bur

Ruhr MOVE Burgundy -> Resolved
Munich SUPPORT Ruhr to Burgundy -> Resolved

What i think would be more interesting was if burgundy -> ruhr with support from belgium. I don't know what happens there, if it is 2v1 in both cases, whether it is possible for the two to do a direct swap.
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Re: 2 vs 2 but moving across borders

Postby behnam » 23 Mar 2008, 23:49

brenton wrote:What i think would be more interesting was if burgundy -> ruhr with support from belgium. I don't know what happens there, if it is 2v1 in both cases, whether it is possible for the two to do a direct swap.


Nothing would happen in that situation. All 4 pieces would remain where they are. It is a 2v2 with all supports intact.
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Re: 2 vs 2 but moving across borders

Postby revans » 28 Mar 2008, 03:53

Everyone's correct. And that's what is so neat when you're planning your moves. Yeah, it's 2 on 2, but a certain combo of moves could have you end up in a better spot than your opponent!

Sometimes I know a unit is going to get attacked, or their support will be cut and there's nothing I can do about it. So I just give it up and use it to move to somewhere else and use other units to support it. At least I'll get something instead of nothing by abandoning it and going for something else.

This kind of horrible situation happens a lot in the Balkans...
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