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Scoring system

PostPosted: 18 Aug 2013, 22:09
by max3
Does how quickly you win or how long you hold out before you lose affect how many points you win/lose?

Re: Scoring system

PostPosted: 18 Aug 2013, 22:58
by Petunia
No.

Re: Scoring system

PostPosted: 18 Aug 2013, 23:01
by Satillian
I am under the impression that the only variables that affect your score upon completion of a game are the scores of the other participants in the game, and also, if you win, whether or not it's a draw.

Re: Scoring system

PostPosted: 19 Aug 2013, 00:37
by metalbat
Yep, it only matters if you win or lose, NOT how you play the game!

Re: Scoring system

PostPosted: 19 Aug 2013, 00:39
by Petunia
Satillian wrote:I am under the impression that the only variables that affect your score upon completion of a game are the scores of the other participants in the game, and also, if you win, whether or not it's a draw.

Drawing isn't winning, but yeah, that's otherwise totally accurate.

Re: Scoring system

PostPosted: 19 Aug 2013, 01:29
by sinnybee
Petunia wrote:
Satillian wrote:I am under the impression that the only variables that affect your score upon completion of a game are the scores of the other participants in the game, and also, if you win, whether or not it's a draw.

Drawing isn't winning,

I agree, but not all here do (and maybe not even a majority), and on the games archive, all participants in a draw have "WINNER" next to their name, and the potential of winning points.

Petunia wrote:but yeah, that's otherwise totally accurate.

For completion, what matters is
1) the difference between the player's rating and the average rating of their opponents,
2) the outcome of the game (solo, or how many are in the draw),
3) the number of finished ranked games of the player in the new system,
4) whether or not a shield rating is in place if the game would lower the rating of the player, and
5) the percentage of turns played by the player if they joined as a replacement.

The amount of supply centers does not matter.

So, to answer the OP:
max3 wrote:Does how quickly you win or how long you hold out before you lose affect how many points you win/lose?

No, if you played the game from the beginning, and yes, if you joined as a replacement, with the score getting changed more by a longer game by the replacement player.

Re: Scoring system

PostPosted: 19 Aug 2013, 01:35
by Petunia
Good answer for completion Sinny and great point about the replacement ratio exception.

sinnybee wrote:
Petunia wrote:
Satillian wrote:I am under the impression that the only variables that affect your score upon completion of a game are the scores of the other participants in the game, and also, if you win, whether or not it's a draw.

Drawing isn't winning,

I agree, but not all here do (and maybe not even a majority),

Shrug. I'm sure that you are aware of my stance on other peoples' incorrect opinions.

Re: Scoring system

PostPosted: 19 Aug 2013, 02:03
by sinnybee
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Re: Scoring system

PostPosted: 19 Aug 2013, 08:15
by super_dipsy
Just as a reminder, there is lots of info on the scoring system here http://www.playdiplomacy.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=565

Re: Scoring system

PostPosted: 19 Aug 2013, 10:46
by gareth66
Two teams play a football match. The score at the end is level. The match is a draw. Have both teams won?

Rhetorical question clearly. Petunia is right. There are three possible outcomes to a game of Diplomacy. You can win, you can draw or you can lose. There are those that think that a draw counts as a win. There are also those who think that a draw counts as a loss. Both points of view are clearly flawed though. Maybe there is an issue of perception, created by the description of the participants in a draw as "Winners" in the Stats tab (and in the end-of-game email). Maybe there is a seed of a suggestion for improvement there that I will carry over to the suggestions forum...