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World Diplomacy Championships Spring 1907 Recap

Postby DQ » 16 Oct 2016, 15:09

https://youtu.be/H9-8hMdf8BY

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Re: World Diplomacy Championships Spring 1907 Recap

Postby asudevil » 16 Oct 2016, 16:27

What season was the totally illegal order from.

The season you mention was a mistake...screwup ... whatever...but there was a different season where they retreated to an illegal spot and got away with it.

I would love to hear the recap from that season
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Re: World Diplomacy Championships Spring 1907 Recap

Postby DQ » 16 Oct 2016, 18:45

Peter's illegal retreat was .... 1904, I think?
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Re: World Diplomacy Championships Spring 1907 Recap

Postby Carebear » 16 Oct 2016, 20:42

Should not there be a TD, GM, moderator, or something at an event like this to kind check that these sort or things are caught and corrected so they do not impact the final board?
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Re: World Diplomacy Championships Spring 1907 Recap

Postby asudevil » 16 Oct 2016, 20:54

Carebear wrote:Should not there be a TD, GM, moderator, or something at an event like this to kind check that these sort or things are caught and corrected so they do not impact the final board?


They don't though...its all players. Should there be...probably. But honestly, I hate the drop dead timer too...I think you should get your 15 min of negotiation then like 1 min to write orders silently
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Re: World Diplomacy Championships Spring 1907 Recap

Postby DQ » 16 Oct 2016, 21:03

There is a lot of discussion about how to handle "top boards" and really _all_ boards in tournament play, but there isn't yet a lot of consensus. One thing these videos are doing is showing up some of the problems that need to be addressed. Having a neutral GM who reads all top-board orders would have made a big difference a couple of times.

As for the clock, the big advantages is it keeps everything moving forward at a regular pace for all players. If you need a minute to write orders, negotiate for 14 and then write (or whatever). IMO this is fair - because everyone deals with the same time structure, whereas in other systems you have players who take 3+ minutes to write orders, every season, and the game slows down tremendously.

At Tempest this year, Peter Yeargin (Austria in the vid, TD at Tempest) used the same clock but said that it was a "keep moving" clock, not a drop dead - and that every player should have their orders in, but if someone didn't for some reason, they could take a few seconds to finish writing. He only had to warn one player once about abusing the clock, and I thought it worked pretty well.
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Re: World Diplomacy Championships Spring 1907 Recap

Postby Carebear » 16 Oct 2016, 21:08

asudevil wrote:
Carebear wrote:Should not there be a TD, GM, moderator, or something at an event like this to kind check that these sort or things are caught and corrected so they do not impact the final board?


They don't though...its all players. Should there be...probably. But honestly, I hate the drop dead timer too...I think you should get your 15 min of negotiation then like 1 min to write orders silently

Not every tournament has drop-dead timers. Carnage does not. It is a more laid back tournament to end the calendar season. Sitting it the outdoor hot tub by the heated pool while watching people ski down the slopes, nice...
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Re: World Diplomacy Championships Spring 1907 Recap

Postby Carebear » 16 Oct 2016, 21:10

DQ wrote:There is a lot of discussion about how to handle "top boards" and really _all_ boards in tournament play, but there isn't yet a lot of consensus. One thing these videos are doing is showing up some of the problems that need to be addressed. Having a neutral GM who reads all top-board orders would have made a big difference a couple of times

Since you all will be running WDC in '18, will you be giving thought to having a final board GM?
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Re: World Diplomacy Championships Spring 1907 Recap

Postby DQ » 16 Oct 2016, 21:58

Peter will be TD, but (as Captain of the PTKS) I will be strongly advocating for it. Seems like a good idea, right?
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Re: World Diplomacy Championships Spring 1907 Recap

Postby Carebear » 16 Oct 2016, 22:26

DQ wrote:Peter will be TD, but (as Captain of the PTKS) I will be strongly advocating for it. Seems like a good idea, right?

You will be forcing a board finalist in this year's WDC to be the TD for the WDC '18?! That is almost criminal. :lol:
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